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06 Jul 2016, 6:04 pm

We recently had a president who tortured people, which I always thought was a crime. And he's still free. So, have some perspective, are we going to take down a possible future president for improper use of e-mail?



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06 Jul 2016, 6:14 pm

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We recently had a president who tortured people, which I always thought was a crime. And he's still free. So, have some perspective, are we going to take down a possible future president for improper use of e-mail?


Good point.

Oh and don't forget all that lying he did to invade Iraq in the first place. Oh and the at least 60 people killed in attacks on embassies under Bush. And the 20 million lost bush administration emails.



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06 Jul 2016, 6:16 pm

What I wanna know is, How is the State Department going to sanction someone who doesn't work for them anymore?


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06 Jul 2016, 6:24 pm

No worries... Jason Chaffetz, the chairman of the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, will now delve deeper into this case with the same impeccable professionalism that he demonstrated in the Planned Parenthood investigation...



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06 Jul 2016, 6:27 pm

This looks bad:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/hi ... .html?_r=0

Because Hillary used her BlackBerry within the territories of our adversaries, foreign governments have probably already hacked her phone. Hillary didn't have a cybersecurity professional monitor her private server, so it was probably already hacked by dedicated state-sponsored hackers.


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06 Jul 2016, 6:32 pm

The latest Gallup Poll of U.S. political party affiliation for 2016 shows that 28 percent of voters are Republicans, 31 percent are Democrats and 39 percent are unaffiliated (independent) voters.

The unaffiliated voters hold a controlling plurality of the votes at this time. Given that they are, in fact, unlikely to vote for either major political party (and might, instead, avoid voting), seemingly viable third-party candidates (like Libertarian nominees Gary Johnson and William Weld) could force a three-way election. If that happens, these unaffiliated voters along with a relative few partisans of both major parties could upset expectations.

In light of this, I agree that the ongoing Clinton saga won't let up and no longer requires an indictment by her former employers within the federal government. This fact doesn't meant that Trump will coast to an easy victory. Again, watch the unaffiliated voters. They will likely control the outcome of the election more than anyone or anything else.

I also expect a few additional unaffiliated voters after both party conventions when Americans who aren't addicted to the cult of personality see the candidates in prime time. It is going to get a lot rougher.


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06 Jul 2016, 8:19 pm

Trump will win independent voters, he already leads them significantly over Hillary who is hated by independents

no third party candidate is going to poll well enough to get in the debates and those debates will be highest rated ever. People will naturally gravitate to one of the two candidates since it is a very polarizing election and people do not like to vote for losers. Third party candidates always over poll when they include them, I don't think Gary Johnson or Jill Stein get over 5%. There will be unprecedented media coverage, nobody is going to be talking third party. Wake me when someone hits 16% or whatever in the polls

They use to put Ron Paul in third party polls sometimes and he'd get like 8-11%, it's just natural for these polls.

President Trump should hold all the criminal politicians accountable, this isn't over for Hillary she's running for her freedom



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06 Jul 2016, 10:04 pm

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yeah that's nonsense Ivana is literally campaigning for Trump to be president

all his ex's seem to think he's swell guy, not something you say about Bubba



If you don't think that Trump has legally tied and bound all of his exes not to spout anything derogatory about him, you're an easy mark for anyone and everyone who wants to pull one over on you.

I can't stand Hillary, but Trump can't even pretend to be an adult; the rest of the world is already laughing at us for letting him get this far. I really wish we could have a do-over, but I'm not sure that our general population has learned enough from this fiasco to do anything differently. No matter who wins in November, we're screwed.



Trump's ex's enthusiastically support him and speak the world of him

lets talk to some Clinton mistresses see what they have to say

Trump is the candidate that opposes globalism, the elitists can't understand why the working class so hates their living standards stagnating and falling for 40 years while the 1% has EXPLODED in wealth.

Trump is not perfect, he is most definitely a showman but he is the nominee and this is the only chance we've ever gotten at voting for candidate that puts the American people first. Not Wall Street, not the Beltway, not Silicon Valley, not Saudi Arabia, not Isreael, not basically everyone else but us. Our country is ROTTING and a significant part of the reason for that is Bill Clinton who signed NAFTA. Hillary was for TPP before she was against it, Obama is for it and Bill signed NAFTA so do you believe her?

Trump is easily the better candidate, he will bring sorely needed change and independent thought to Washington


Like I said, you're an easy mark; you've not only swallowed the bait, but the hook is stuck in your throat. If you think that bashing Hillary is going to make me think you're right about Trump being any better, you're wrong again. On the one hand, you have sh!t; on the other, you have feces. THEY BOTH REEK.



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06 Jul 2016, 11:19 pm

you're an easy mark believing media horses**t

i veteran of the bs msm media smear campaign as they did it to Ron Paul too

real guilty people playing wag the dog



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06 Jul 2016, 11:30 pm

beneficii wrote:
This looks bad:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/hi ... .html?_r=0

Because Hillary used her BlackBerry within the territories of our adversaries, foreign governments have probably already hacked her phone. Hillary didn't have a cybersecurity professional monitor her private server, so it was probably already hacked by dedicated state-sponsored hackers.

Many politicians were using BlackBerry a few years back, so it's likely to be problem way beyond Hillary.



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06 Jul 2016, 11:35 pm

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you're an easy mark believing media horses**t

i veteran of the bs msm media smear campaign as they did it to Ron Paul too

real guilty people playing wag the dog

I could return you that. http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/is-the-alt-right-for-real



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06 Jul 2016, 11:45 pm

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Trump will win independent voters, he already leads them significantly over Hillary who is hated by independents

no third party candidate is going to poll well enough to get in the debates and those debates will be highest rated ever. People will naturally gravitate to one of the two candidates since it is a very polarizing election and people do not like to vote for losers. Third party candidates always over poll when they include them, I don't think Gary Johnson or Jill Stein get over 5%. There will be unprecedented media coverage, nobody is going to be talking third party. Wake me when someone hits 16% or whatever in the polls

They use to put Ron Paul in third party polls sometimes and he'd get like 8-11%, it's just natural for these polls.

President Trump should hold all the criminal politicians accountable, this isn't over for Hillary she's running for her freedom


But are you taking age into consideration? Younger voters, who are more likely to be independents, reject Trump for all his talk of racial and religious division, just as they've rejected the tea party.


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07 Jul 2016, 12:05 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Trump will win independent voters, he already leads them significantly over Hillary who is hated by independents

no third party candidate is going to poll well enough to get in the debates and those debates will be highest rated ever. People will naturally gravitate to one of the two candidates since it is a very polarizing election and people do not like to vote for losers. Third party candidates always over poll when they include them, I don't think Gary Johnson or Jill Stein get over 5%. There will be unprecedented media coverage, nobody is going to be talking third party. Wake me when someone hits 16% or whatever in the polls

They use to put Ron Paul in third party polls sometimes and he'd get like 8-11%, it's just natural for these polls.

President Trump should hold all the criminal politicians accountable, this isn't over for Hillary she's running for her freedom


But are you taking age into consideration? Younger voters, who are more likely to be independents, reject Trump for all his talk of racial and religious division, just as they've rejected the tea party.


The head to head polls before they started polling 4 ways after the primary had Trump with a healthy lead in independent voters. Younger voters don't typically turn out and I think you'd be mistaken if you think Hillary is going to inspire them to come out and vote. GOP primary was up 60% compared to the Democrats in 2008 who were down 20% this season, Trump probably get more of youth vote than Romney. He do better with every Demographic than Romney even Hispanics.



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07 Jul 2016, 12:05 am

Independents are more often than not conservative regardless of age. Otherwise those youngsters would be Dems, Libs, or Green Party.

I can't guess in every state, but Arizona, my home state, has 3 and change million registered voters. 1mil+ are GOP and 1 mil+ are Independent ( a schism that came because John McLame I would theorize in the cause and effect dept. Most my freinds that are 'I" do not want ta party to count on their vote and are all former republicans. I join them again soon ). Only a small percent are ethnic minorities.
And in contested year only 800k of the last mil were Dems. The rest are Libertarians and a few others.

To turn off the average Independent in Texas, AZ or NC at least; Trump would need more policy gaffes, not social ones.


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07 Jul 2016, 1:37 am

Anyone else would have been charged, they've made it very clear that lack of intent is not a defense to this type of charge, and people have gone to jail for less.


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07 Jul 2016, 2:15 am

Gosh, where are all the people who usually scream about "rich white privilege"? :scratch:


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