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15 Dec 2016, 4:17 pm

From what I've learned, I am pretty certain that the people with the money and clout want people like Clinton in power as she has so many skeletons in her closet that they know they can blackmail her to say and do what they want, and she will as she loves the fame and money. She came crashing back down to earth on election night though.


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15 Dec 2016, 4:56 pm

That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


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15 Dec 2016, 5:34 pm

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That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Thank you! I'm glad someone brought that up. A lot of the fake news is issuing forth from Trump's mouth.


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15 Dec 2016, 5:35 pm

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Like the emails between the brothers, which were obviously using code words.

Why do you say that, because it was Oswald's gun? That doesn't mean a thing. Jones is a conman.


Because Richard Case Nagell, a CIA investigator keeping an eye on the more right wing, violent Anti-Castro groups sponsored by the CIA, had said he was pretty certain Oswald had been one of the shooters, though admittedly chosen to be the scapegoat as well. Nagell was thrown to the wolves for his trouble, after he claimed he had tried to talk Oswald out of taking part in the assassination. Essentially, Oswald was a violent individual who knew he was being used, according to Nagell.
And coded messages? What might those be? And how does that prove involvement in a Pedophile ring?


"Pretty certain" isn't evidence. Any evidence that Oswald was a violent individual? He certainly didn't seem that way going by the interviews.

"Hi John, The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yours? They can send it if you want. I know you’re busy, so feel free not to respond if it’s not yours or you don’t want it."

"Mary and John I think you should give notice when changing strategies which have been long in place. I immediately realized something was different by the shape of the box and I contemplated who would be sending me something in the square shaped box. Lo and behold, instead of pasta and wonderful sauces, it was a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses, Yummy. I am awaiting the return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that we can demolish them. Thank you so much. I hope you and your gang are well. I miss you both Best wishes fro a merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Herb

Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"


Oswald was a rebel looking for a cause. He'd do anything for the cause he had dedicated himself to. And retired FBI agent James Holsty, admittedly not the most reliable source, had claimed to have had received a note from Oswald, in which Oswald said he would blow up the FBI office in Dallas for what he perceived as harassment of his wife. Holsty claims he was ordered to destroy the note after the assassination, which his superior denied. If true, it shows Oswald was potentially capable of violence.


OK, so all hearsay and no evidence. Holsty sounds a bit like Joseph Smith :lol:


I suppose he does. :lol:


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15 Dec 2016, 6:02 pm

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That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Oh there were people cheering not far from New Jersey, but they weren't Muslims.


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15 Dec 2016, 6:06 pm

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That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Oh there were people cheering not far from New Jersey, but they weren't Muslims.


Is that supposed to be that Israeli agent story?


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15 Dec 2016, 6:13 pm

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That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Oh there were people cheering not far from New Jersey, but they weren't Muslims.


Is that supposed to be that Israeli agent story?


It's not a "story".


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15 Dec 2016, 10:36 pm

News as we know it is in part BS. You have to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff and take things with a grain of salt.


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15 Dec 2016, 10:49 pm

None of the activity looks innocent, but there's no smoking gun either; I imagine several people broke out their cameras to film the event as it unfolded. Our own intelligence was notified of an impending attack and failed to act on it, even if Israel did the same thing, they aren't any more culpable than we were.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were happy at the event in anticipation of how we would react against the Arab world. I'm not a fan of our relationship with Israel; they have had more clout over our political system than the Russians, don't abide by our patenting laws, so the military equipment we practically give them is copied and sold to China. I'd give Trump actual kudos if he cut our ties with them.


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16 Dec 2016, 1:31 am

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None of the activity looks innocent, but there's no smoking gun either; I imagine several people broke out their cameras to film the event as it unfolded. Our own intelligence was notified of an impending attack and failed to act on it, even if Israel did the same thing, they aren't any more culpable than we were.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were happy at the event in anticipation of how we would react against the Arab world. I'm not a fan of our relationship with Israel; they have had more clout over our political system than the Russians, don't abide by our patenting laws, so the military equipment we practically give them is copied and sold to China. I'd give Trump actual kudos if he cut our ties with them.


If Trump cut ties to Israel, he'd lose the religious right vote which Republicans have depended on for years now.


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16 Dec 2016, 1:33 am

JohnPowell wrote:
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That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Oh there were people cheering not far from New Jersey, but they weren't Muslims.


Is that supposed to be that Israeli agent story?


It's not a "story".


Is there any evidence to back it up?


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16 Dec 2016, 2:55 am

So is the 5 dancing Israelis story true or not?

It was said they were cheering and launching while filming the attacks and taking photos of each other, but how these films were never leaked to the net?

Stories...stories....with no real evidences.



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16 Dec 2016, 12:52 pm

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None of the activity looks innocent, but there's no smoking gun either; I imagine several people broke out their cameras to film the event as it unfolded. Our own intelligence was notified of an impending attack and failed to act on it, even if Israel did the same thing, they aren't any more culpable than we were.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were happy at the event in anticipation of how we would react against the Arab world. I'm not a fan of our relationship with Israel; they have had more clout over our political system than the Russians, don't abide by our patenting laws, so the military equipment we practically give them is copied and sold to China. I'd give Trump actual kudos if he cut our ties with them.


No one knew the first plane crash was a terrorist attack. Well, some did.


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16 Dec 2016, 12:54 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
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MDD123 wrote:
That reminds me of the time Trump made up the story of mass Muslim cheering coming from New Jersey on 9/11.


Oh there were people cheering not far from New Jersey, but they weren't Muslims.


Is that supposed to be that Israeli agent story?


It's not a "story".


Is there any evidence to back it up?


https://www.scribd.com/collections/4010 ... FBI-report


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16 Dec 2016, 1:38 pm

Please remember that anti-Semitism, such as claiming that "the Jews" did 9/11, is against WrongPlanet's rules.



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17 Dec 2016, 2:59 am

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Please remember that anti-Semitism, such as claiming that "the Jews" did 9/11, is against WrongPlanet's rules.


I didn't have to look at Powell's video to realize from your post that it was suspect.


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