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17 Dec 2016, 6:05 pm

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That phenomenon is called "magical thinking"--people with schizoid/psychotic features are prone to it.


Yes it is a specific type of magical thinking. However the schizotypal spectrum is not just in the clinically abnormal range, it is a spectrum like the autistic spectrum, and a nuerotype. They don't have to be psychotic and it is common.

I have long agreed with the neurologist Robert Sapolsky on this very subject.



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17 Dec 2016, 6:28 pm

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That phenomenon is called "magical thinking"--people with schizoid/psychotic features are prone to it.


Yes it is a specific type of magical thinking. However the schizotypal spectrum is not just in the clinically abnormal range, it is a spectrum like the autistic spectrum, and a nuerotype. They don't have to be psychotic and it is common.

I have long agreed with the neurologist Robert Sapolsky on this very subject.


Oh I know that--I've personally known people who were not psychotic and had no clinical diagnosis who were very prone to magical thinking. She did not completely lose track of reality, but she spent a lot of time talking about "coincidences" and stupid stuff like "The Secret" (which is basically a monetised instruction manual to magical thinking). One of the main reasons we are no longer friends in fact is her proneness to that kind of thing that I just couldn't take seriously and I couldn't humour her in. It was more a personality trait in her than something that needed to be medicated.

ETA: I've also known a couple of guys who were subclinically paranoid in a similar way--not psychotic, but prone to noticing "patterns" in things that would get them thinking of conspiracies and other spurious nonsense and cause them some anxiety.


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17 Dec 2016, 6:51 pm

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Uh, yeah... a picture of Stalin...


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17 Dec 2016, 11:36 pm

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Not sure if "Pizzagate" is true, but there's certainly more evidence than for the conspiracy theory that Russia hacked the US election.


Do you expect the CIA, NSA, and other US intelligence agencies to make their information public?

Unless you hold a high level position at a US intelligence agency, you have no idea how much evidence there is about Russia hacking the US election. All you can say is that they haven't shared that intelligence with you.


No of course not, cause there isn't any information to make public.

If you want to blindly believe organisations that endlessly lie and spy on normal people that's up to you. These organisations lied about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction etc and haven't said a word about hacking of Hillary's behalf or all the corrupted ties linked to her foundation.


The people at the CIA and other intelligence agencies are very professional. They aren't out there pushing a political view -- they are trying to figure out the reality of the situation so that our country can act on it appropriately.

From what I understand, the full report issued by the CIA actually cast doubt on whether Iraq had much in the way of weapons of mass destruction. The problem wasn't in the CIA report but how the administration chose to interpret the report. We should never forget that "Man is not a rational animal -- he is a rationalizing animal".



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18 Dec 2016, 2:14 am

c'mon, the first outing with Bush 1 was also a scam,
then happened that yougoslavia sharade,
then we were supposed to be publicly upset for you-know-what,
rituals,
they keep coming
kneel for the lie

superstition in high places, why isn't that a mental disorder ?
or an 'alien' infestation of parasitism

would that make sense in the light of deliberately breaking down immunitysystems?
but also there's nothing new going on so don't hold your breath

there's importance in details, as long as the individual wants to .....hate, kill, destroy, eliminate, whatever does come to the mind,
that's power to power to do exactly that



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18 Dec 2016, 10:04 am

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, where have we heard that before? :scratch: I don't find it hard to believe that there are pedophiles in the highest halls of power in this country, denying that this goes on I think is the worst partisan thinking. John Podesta appeared to speak in well known code, perhaps he really loves pizza and hotdogs or perhaps they mean something else. We do know the friends that Podesta and the Clinton's keep has more than a few questionable connections, Podesta still keeps in contact with friend and former House Speaker Dennis Hastert or Denny as they are on first name basis. Dennis Hastert just entered prison this past June as a 'serial child molester'. The Comet Ping Pong and other stuff were more circumstantial stuff which spooked people with the odd symbolism and the weirdos they have running the place. Lets not forget that Hillary and Bill were frequent visitors to Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave island, which has some weird occult ritual structure on it in plain view. I don't think any bit of fake news like this has ever received so much attention, think about all the crazy stuff that gets reported in the tabloids and they have like the pope commenting? Something stinks to me.



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18 Dec 2016, 10:11 am

eric76 wrote:
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Not sure if "Pizzagate" is true, but there's certainly more evidence than for the conspiracy theory that Russia hacked the US election.


Do you expect the CIA, NSA, and other US intelligence agencies to make their information public?

Unless you hold a high level position at a US intelligence agency, you have no idea how much evidence there is about Russia hacking the US election. All you can say is that they haven't shared that intelligence with you.


No of course not, cause there isn't any information to make public.

If you want to blindly believe organisations that endlessly lie and spy on normal people that's up to you. These organisations lied about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction etc and haven't said a word about hacking of Hillary's behalf or all the corrupted ties linked to her foundation.


The people at the CIA and other intelligence agencies are very professional. They aren't out there pushing a political view -- they are trying to figure out the reality of the situation so that our country can act on it appropriately.

From what I understand, the full report issued by the CIA actually cast doubt on whether Iraq had much in the way of weapons of mass destruction. The problem wasn't in the CIA report but how the administration chose to interpret the report. We should never forget that "Man is not a rational animal -- he is a rationalizing animal".


That's your opinion, it's utterly incorrect but you're entitled to it. A 2 year old child could have figured out that they were lying about Saddam.

He didn't have any, and that information would/could have been made quite clear to them by a former weapons inspector at the UN.


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18 Dec 2016, 11:19 am

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The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, where have we heard that before? :scratch: I don't find it hard to believe that there are pedophiles in the highest halls of power in this country, denying that this goes on I think is the worst partisan thinking. John Podesta appeared to speak in well known code, perhaps he really loves pizza and hotdogs or perhaps they mean something else. We do know the friends that Podesta and the Clinton's keep has more than a few questionable connections, Podesta still keeps in contact with friend and former House Speaker Dennis Hastert or Denny as they are on first name basis. Dennis Hastert just entered prison this past June as a 'serial child molester'. The Comet Ping Pong and other stuff were more circumstantial stuff which spooked people with the odd symbolism and the weirdos they have running the place. Lets not forget that Hillary and Bill were frequent visitors to Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave island, which has some weird occult ritual structure on it in plain view. I don't think any bit of fake news like this has ever received so much attention, think about all the crazy stuff that gets reported in the tabloids and they have like the pope commenting? Something stinks to me.


But how would know about Podesta's coded language, unless... :pale:
Just kidding! :lol:


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18 Dec 2016, 12:12 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, where have we heard that before? :scratch: I don't find it hard to believe that there are pedophiles in the highest halls of power in this country, denying that this goes on I think is the worst partisan thinking. John Podesta appeared to speak in well known code, perhaps he really loves pizza and hotdogs or perhaps they mean something else. We do know the friends that Podesta and the Clinton's keep has more than a few questionable connections, Podesta still keeps in contact with friend and former House Speaker Dennis Hastert or Denny as they are on first name basis. Dennis Hastert just entered prison this past June as a 'serial child molester'. The Comet Ping Pong and other stuff were more circumstantial stuff which spooked people with the odd symbolism and the weirdos they have running the place. Lets not forget that Hillary and Bill were frequent visitors to Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave island, which has some weird occult ritual structure on it in plain view. I don't think any bit of fake news like this has ever received so much attention, think about all the crazy stuff that gets reported in the tabloids and they have like the pope commenting? Something stinks to me.


But how would know about Podesta's coded language, unless... :pale:
Just kidding! :lol:


I believe FBI Anon made the connection, they are well versed in that world. They also mentioned something about a colored handkerchief with a 'map' on it too, handkerchiefs are also known code. Having read the emails you would agree that there is coded language being used yes or no? Maybe they just really pizza and hotdogs, seems odd to me which his why anon has kept digging finding more and more circumstantial evidence into the relationship the Clinton inner circle has children and people with access to children.

There is far more truth to this than pretty much all of the made up media Trump scandals and I think that is what scares people, some people don't want look for something they don't want to find for cleaning up the mess may be a monumental task and lets not forget these are the richest most powerful people on the planet and they fight back. Something interesting I read about Jeffrey Epstein was he intentionally tried to get the rich/powerful involved with underage girls and probably boys as well so he could later have the means to blackmail them if need be. These pedophiles are like cockroaches, when you see one there isn't just one and they scatter once the lights turn on. It shouldn't be shocking as these people are drawn to positions of power, these are not your ordinary anti-social behaving criminal.



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18 Dec 2016, 12:22 pm

Pizzagate = Conspirisist Trash.


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18 Dec 2016, 12:25 pm

More truth to it than the "Putin personally hacked the US elections and got Trump elected" conspiracy nonsense.



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18 Dec 2016, 8:09 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, where have we heard that before? :scratch: I don't find it hard to believe that there are pedophiles in the highest halls of power in this country, denying that this goes on I think is the worst partisan thinking. John Podesta appeared to speak in well known code, perhaps he really loves pizza and hotdogs or perhaps they mean something else. We do know the friends that Podesta and the Clinton's keep has more than a few questionable connections, Podesta still keeps in contact with friend and former House Speaker Dennis Hastert or Denny as they are on first name basis. Dennis Hastert just entered prison this past June as a 'serial child molester'. The Comet Ping Pong and other stuff were more circumstantial stuff which spooked people with the odd symbolism and the weirdos they have running the place. Lets not forget that Hillary and Bill were frequent visitors to Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave island, which has some weird occult ritual structure on it in plain view. I don't think any bit of fake news like this has ever received so much attention, think about all the crazy stuff that gets reported in the tabloids and they have like the pope commenting? Something stinks to me.


But how would know about Podesta's coded language, unless... :pale:
Just kidding! :lol:


I believe FBI Anon made the connection, they are well versed in that world. They also mentioned something about a colored handkerchief with a 'map' on it too, handkerchiefs are also known code. Having read the emails you would agree that there is coded language being used yes or no? Maybe they just really pizza and hotdogs, seems odd to me which his why anon has kept digging finding more and more circumstantial evidence into the relationship the Clinton inner circle has children and people with access to children.

There is far more truth to this than pretty much all of the made up media Trump scandals and I think that is what scares people, some people don't want look for something they don't want to find for cleaning up the mess may be a monumental task and lets not forget these are the richest most powerful people on the planet and they fight back. Something interesting I read about Jeffrey Epstein was he intentionally tried to get the rich/powerful involved with underage girls and probably boys as well so he could later have the means to blackmail them if need be. These pedophiles are like cockroaches, when you see one there isn't just one and they scatter once the lights turn on. It shouldn't be shocking as these people are drawn to positions of power, these are not your ordinary anti-social behaving criminal.


If the FBI has this incriminating information on Podesta, why haven't they arrested him? And the same people behind the Pizzagate conspiracy theory have even tried to rope in Lady GaGa. LADY GAGA of all people!! !!
And no, I don't believe for a second that she's a pedophile.


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18 Dec 2016, 9:00 pm

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More truth to it than the "Putin personally hacked the US elections and got Trump elected" conspiracy nonsense.


Which isn't much considering the fact that the 'Weekly World News' probably contains more facts than the two combined.


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18 Dec 2016, 9:50 pm

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And you know something? That pizza shop has no basement.


Kraich, I would like to know how you formed that conclusion?

Have you personally visited that shop?
Did someone tell you?
Did you read it in a newspaper or hear it on a TV show?

What is your source for that information?



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18 Dec 2016, 10:15 pm

Pizzagate may or may NOT be true, but there are cases of people being silenced for trying to expose government-sponsored kidnapping of children: http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/04/27/sen ... -her-life/



Who isn't to say, that, among other things, some of these state CPSs aren't running pedophile rings?

https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/child ... n-for-sex/

Also, we happen to have open borders, thanks to the occupant of the Oval Office who can't leave soon enough. It's not hard for human traffickers to get across a porous border. Heck, the drug cartels might even be running a pedo ring on the side. They basically run the Mexican government and can be as brutal to opponents as ISIS is. (Yes, they have beheaded, etc, enemies and burned people to death too:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/11/ ... ay-police/

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/07 ... rning.html