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04 Jan 2017, 7:29 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
How to Stop Uncontrolled Immigration Like a Pro:

- Stop destabilizing the Middle East.
- End the Mexican Drug War ... and the entire war on drugs.
- Blame Lockheed Martin and Exxon Mobil.

I don't see why this is such a hard issue. Everything that I am saying should be common sense by now.


Solve it..."like a pro"?????

In sports there are "professionals" whom an ammature can emulate. But in the field of stopping illegal immigration there are no "professionals" ( no "pros") to emulate. So the expression "like a pro" doesnt mean anything when applied to that subject.

The Middle East would destablize itself whether we touched it or not. Its a closed room full of gasoline fumes. If we didnt spark it it would still spark itself.

How do you propose that we end of the Mexican drug war?

Why blame two companies? What are you blaming them for? And even if they deserve blame what does just blaming them solve?



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07 Jan 2017, 12:32 am

naturalplastic wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
How to Stop Uncontrolled Immigration Like a Pro:

- Stop destabilizing the Middle East.
- End the Mexican Drug War ... and the entire war on drugs.
- Blame Lockheed Martin and Exxon Mobil.

I don't see why this is such a hard issue. Everything that I am saying should be common sense by now.


Solve it..."like a pro"?????

In sports there are "professionals" whom an ammature can emulate. But in the field of stopping illegal immigration there are no "professionals" ( no "pros") to emulate. So the expression "like a pro" doesnt mean anything when applied to that subject.

The Middle East would destablize itself whether we touched it or not. Its a closed room full of gasoline fumes. If we didnt spark it it would still spark itself.

How do you propose that we end of the Mexican drug war?

Why blame two companies? What are you blaming them for? And even if they deserve blame what does just blaming them solve?


Ending the Mexican drug war is easy...stop fueling it. It's the war on drugs in America which is driving up the demand for drugs, because all limiting the supply is doing is driving up the price, which makes selling a little bit of drugs much more profitable, which makes it much more appealing for cartels. If illegal drug trafficking ceases to be profitable, then the gangs will die off.


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07 Jan 2017, 2:31 pm

Ganondox wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
How to Stop Uncontrolled Immigration Like a Pro:

- Stop destabilizing the Middle East.
- End the Mexican Drug War ... and the entire war on drugs.
- Blame Lockheed Martin and Exxon Mobil.

I don't see why this is such a hard issue. Everything that I am saying should be common sense by now.


Solve it..."like a pro"?????

In sports there are "professionals" whom an ammature can emulate. But in the field of stopping illegal immigration there are no "professionals" ( no "pros") to emulate. So the expression "like a pro" doesnt mean anything when applied to that subject.

The Middle East would destablize itself whether we touched it or not. Its a closed room full of gasoline fumes. If we didnt spark it it would still spark itself.

How do you propose that we end of the Mexican drug war?

Why blame two companies? What are you blaming them for? And even if they deserve blame what does just blaming them solve?


Ending the Mexican drug war is easy...stop fueling it. It's the war on drugs in America which is driving up the demand for drugs, because all limiting the supply is doing is driving up the price, which makes selling a little bit of drugs much more profitable, which makes it much more appealing for cartels. If illegal drug trafficking ceases to be profitable, then the gangs will die off.


So you are saying that we should legalize drugs? Or are you saying we should not necessarily legalize them, but just stop trying to stop drugs from coming in through the border? Or what exactly?



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07 Jan 2017, 2:43 pm

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07 Jan 2017, 3:00 pm

So far as anyone can tell, negative behaviors, on each side of the cultural divide, are being subsidized. It's like asking how to end gun violence, after the Fast&Furious gunrunning scandal, or how to end drug addiction, after the drug running scandals. Perhaps, if some influential money interest were to referee, there would be no more problems, in the world.



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07 Jan 2017, 7:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
How to Stop Uncontrolled Immigration Like a Pro:

- Stop destabilizing the Middle East.
- End the Mexican Drug War ... and the entire war on drugs.
- Blame Lockheed Martin and Exxon Mobil.

I don't see why this is such a hard issue. Everything that I am saying should be common sense by now.


Solve it..."like a pro"?????

In sports there are "professionals" whom an ammature can emulate. But in the field of stopping illegal immigration there are no "professionals" ( no "pros") to emulate. So the expression "like a pro" doesnt mean anything when applied to that subject.

The Middle East would destablize itself whether we touched it or not. Its a closed room full of gasoline fumes. If we didnt spark it it would still spark itself.

How do you propose that we end of the Mexican drug war?

Why blame two companies? What are you blaming them for? And even if they deserve blame what does just blaming them solve?


Ending the Mexican drug war is easy...stop fueling it. It's the war on drugs in America which is driving up the demand for drugs, because all limiting the supply is doing is driving up the price, which makes selling a little bit of drugs much more profitable, which makes it much more appealing for cartels. If illegal drug trafficking ceases to be profitable, then the gangs will die off.


So you are saying that we should legalize drugs? Or are you saying we should not necessarily legalize them, but just stop trying to stop drugs from coming in through the border? Or what exactly?


There are countless different ideas for exactly how to do that, legalizing drugs being one of them but not the only one. It doesn't matter what exactly we go with, what we are doing now is terrible.


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08 Jan 2017, 7:01 am

Shahunshah wrote:
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No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


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08 Jan 2017, 11:29 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


That was hundreds of years ago, and by a different group of democrats.


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08 Jan 2017, 11:40 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


Today, most black Americans are Democrats, while the KKK has become overwhelmingly conservative Republican, beginning first with LBJ's civil rights legislation, then with the right's charge for states rights -code for stamping on unpopular minorities - championed by Reagan and others.


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09 Jan 2017, 4:35 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


Today, most black Americans are Democrats, while the KKK has become overwhelmingly conservative Republican, beginning first with LBJ's civil rights legislation, then with the right's charge for states rights -code for stamping on unpopular minorities - championed by Reagan and others.
Yeah LBJ I think was probably the best President post FDR. Its a pity we haven't seen someone like him in modern day politics.



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09 Jan 2017, 10:33 am

LBJ is a secret racist.



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09 Jan 2017, 2:54 pm

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The Autism connection to the alt right seems to have come from the "claim" by Milo Yiannopoulos that he is an Aspie because he can not get offended. A person who revels in the "post fact" world does not seem autistic to me.


It seems like in the actual article he talks about autism or sociopathy, which a both involve lack of empathy but our empathy is logical (we don't know what the person is thinking) while sociopaths have a lack of emotional empathy (they don't care what the person is feeling even if they understand what they are thinking). Maybe he is more the latter and confuses the two... Just a thought.


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09 Jan 2017, 4:30 pm

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LBJ is a secret racist.
And he worked tirelessly to end discrimination did he not?

I think most of his beliefs were genuine. He spent his 20s as a teacher for Hispanic immigrants got to know and understand these people as well as the discrimination they suffered.



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09 Jan 2017, 6:02 pm

Shahunshah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


Today, most black Americans are Democrats, while the KKK has become overwhelmingly conservative Republican, beginning first with LBJ's civil rights legislation, then with the right's charge for states rights -code for stamping on unpopular minorities - championed by Reagan and others.
Yeah LBJ I think was probably the best President post FDR. Its a pity we haven't seen someone like him in modern day politics.


Amen to that. I think Obama had wanted to follow in LBJ's footsteps with LGBT rights.


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09 Jan 2017, 6:08 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
No, it isn't.
Why?

In 1992 and 1996 20% of Republicans supported Pat Buchanan an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier. If something like that happened so recently how can you say their isn't a substantial portion of the party that subscribes to the alt right's views.

David Duke also won the 1991 Louisiana Primary. Republican voters have got behind these people.
Yes and remember the KKK was founded by Democrats.


Today, most black Americans are Democrats, while the KKK has become overwhelmingly conservative Republican, beginning first with LBJ's civil rights legislation, then with the right's charge for states rights -code for stamping on unpopular minorities - championed by Reagan and others.
Yeah LBJ I think was probably the best President post FDR. Its a pity we haven't seen someone like him in modern day politics.


Amen to that. I think Obama had wanted to follow in LBJ's footsteps with LGBT rights.
Yeah. The thing is where Johnson had his huge democratic congress because of 1964 landslide, Obama had a Republican congress adamantly opposed to him.

In part I think we may have gone in the wrong direction in LGBT rights from 2008. Their are numerous religious restoration acts across the country. Under those laws, people who are gay are able to be refused employment and services on the basis of their sexuality.



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10 Jan 2017, 10:56 am

Dont know if you all are still on the original topic or not, but...I find it hard to believe that each and every member of the "Alt Right" is autistic. :lol:

Thats what the OP seems to be saying.

Its very possible that some autistic folks might be driven to causes because of being emotionally scarred by being abused for being autistic. So SOME recruits to the Alt Right might be autistic. But just as many autistics might be driven to being left wing SJWs, or to being Evangelical Christians, or even to join Peta (because they might identify with abused animals), or to any of any number of diverse and even opposing causes that you can think of.

I just dont see how "anti-autistic abuse" could have single handedly spawned the Alt-Right.



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