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19 Jan 2017, 1:03 am

Just because you never personally see it doesn't mean it's not going on in places you've never been to. It's like people in low crime-rate places being like "well I don't ever see crime so it doesn't seem like a real problem, all I see is people complaining about it". A lot of things exist that you may never actually see, it doesn't suddenly only become real once you see it.



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19 Jan 2017, 1:16 am

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I see so many people who say that they are autistic (online) and then say that they are self diagnosed and that they dont actually have traits (no more than the average person) but they feel autistic. They discredit (ALL) doctors and claim that a self-dx is just as valid as a "proper" paper dx. (It's wrong)


Wait, people actually claim to have autism but have actually said they don't have any traits but they feel autistic? I have never seen that before. How can you feel autistic if you don't have any traits?

But I have seen a few cases online where someone goes from doctor to doctor to get a DX because they are so convinced they have it and they do believe they have symptoms and enough for it to impair them. I say they may have an impairment and they may be struggling but why does it need to be autism and not something else? Why not have an open mind and consider it might be something else and get help for your issues you are having than focusing on the label? That will eventually lead to a diagnoses.


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19 Jan 2017, 6:10 am

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I see so many people who say that they are autistic (online) and then say that they are self diagnosed and that they dont actually have traits (no more than the average person) but they feel autistic. They discredit (ALL) doctors and claim that a self-dx is just as valid as a "proper" paper dx. (It's wrong)


Wait, people actually claim to have autism but have actually said they don't have any traits but they feel autistic? I have never seen that before. How can you feel autistic if you don't have any traits?

But I have seen a few cases online where someone goes from doctor to doctor to get a DX because they are so convinced they have it and they do believe they have symptoms and enough for it to impair them. I say they may have an impairment and they may be struggling but why does it need to be autism and not something else? Why not have an open mind and consider it might be something else and get help for your issues you are having than focusing on the label? That will eventually lead to a diagnoses.


People of Tumblr do not need doctors. People of Tumblr are more valid then doctors.


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19 Jan 2017, 8:27 am

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Just because you never personally see it doesn't mean it's not going on in places you've never been to. It's like people in low crime-rate places being like "well I don't ever see crime so it doesn't seem like a real problem, all I see is people complaining about it". A lot of things exist that you may never actually see, it doesn't suddenly only become real once you see it.

If it happens, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to provide evidence for it.

For my part, I've only really observed "SJWs" (what a silly term) who have inclusive attitudes towards neurodiversity and autism acceptance. There might be a few who aren't so accepting, but they're quite a small minority. It's lazy and inaccurate to tar everyone with an interest in social justice as "not very accepting".

It's quite easy to find a wealth of "mainstream" SJ sites talking about including autism in their advocacy.
http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/03/wro ... ht-autism/
http://www.themarysue.com/autism-awareness-month/
https://www.thefword.org.uk/2012/06/autistic_people/
http://www.loveyourrebellion.org/inters ... ist-issue/
http://feministing.com/2013/11/21/quick ... man-value/
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Autism_is_to_blame
http://feministsonar.com/2015/06/smashingableism/

Go on tumblr or reddit or Facebook and it's even easier - but of course it's also easier to find people saying the opposite. Still, on balance I think SJ types are generally more accepting of autism than the general population.



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19 Jan 2017, 8:42 am

Would it not be breaking the rules to post evidence of it? I'd have thought it counts as personal attack.



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19 Jan 2017, 1:00 pm

Dave_T wrote:
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I see so many people who say that they are autistic (online) and then say that they are self diagnosed and that they dont actually have traits (no more than the average person) but they feel autistic. They discredit (ALL) doctors and claim that a self-dx is just as valid as a "proper" paper dx. (It's wrong)


Wait, people actually claim to have autism but have actually said they don't have any traits but they feel autistic? I have never seen that before. How can you feel autistic if you don't have any traits?

But I have seen a few cases online where someone goes from doctor to doctor to get a DX because they are so convinced they have it and they do believe they have symptoms and enough for it to impair them. I say they may have an impairment and they may be struggling but why does it need to be autism and not something else? Why not have an open mind and consider it might be something else and get help for your issues you are having than focusing on the label? That will eventually lead to a diagnoses.


People of Tumblr do not need doctors. People of Tumblr are more valid then doctors.


I don't go to Tumblr. Is that what people actually do there? Why would Tumblr be a spot for that sort of thing and not anywhere else?


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19 Jan 2017, 1:01 pm

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Would it not be breaking the rules to post evidence of it? I'd have thought it counts as personal attack.

I think it would be okay as long it's not about a WP member.



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19 Jan 2017, 1:06 pm

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:lmao: The s**t these people come up with


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I've seen that apparently the diagnostic criteria is way out and autism is just something you "feel" or an "identity", I don't get what they're even on about to be honest.


This sort of nonsense doesn't quite irritate me as much as it used to. I think.



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19 Jan 2017, 1:25 pm

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Would it not be breaking the rules to post evidence of it? I'd have thought it counts as personal attack.

I think it would be okay as long it's not about a WP member.

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19 Jan 2017, 2:25 pm

I don't see how linking to other sites are attacks. Can anyone explain?


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19 Jan 2017, 2:29 pm

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I don't see how linking to other sites are attacks. Can anyone explain?

At the moment it's just the general concept, if I were to link examples (who are people) it'd probably be personal attack.



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19 Jan 2017, 2:49 pm

I'm around lots of people every day.

I've never heard anybody "claim" they have autism.

It's really not a fashionable thing at all. It's not something people really want to come right out and admit.

It's a stigma, in fact, in many circles.



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19 Jan 2017, 3:15 pm

I have heard this as a reply when you bring up autism. "We're all on the autism spectrum..." Riiiight. That's like saying that "We're all Jewish." No. Social groups don't work that way. There's never a hard cut off of any "type" of person, which is why we have our borderline people, but there is a point where it is of general opinion that this person IS in this social group and this other person is NOT.

I am really interested in the "based autist" talk that's been going on in some corners of the Internet. Where autistic people are revered as wizard-like higher beings. It may be kind of offensive, like saying that Asian people are good at math- but at least it's a positive stereotype.



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19 Jan 2017, 3:28 pm

I *am* a higher being. All should bow before me.


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19 Jan 2017, 4:06 pm

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I *am* a higher being. All should bow before me.

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19 Jan 2017, 4:11 pm

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SJWs do not seem very friendly towards autistics, they do not seem very helpful or accepting.
SJWs say everyone deserves to be accepted but they do not practice what they preach.

In their own language they're guilty of "ableism".


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