The Difference Between The Civil War and WWII

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The South is still rather Racist to this day.

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With more than 55% of its population living in homogeneous zip codes, the Cleveland metro area is the most segregated urban area in the country. Of the roughly 100 zip codes in the area, 63 areCleveland predominantly white and are home to nearly 70% of Cleveland’s white population. The metro area’s black population is similarly segregated, with 30.9% concentrated in just six zip codes.

Segregation by income is also a problem in Cleveland. In February, the Martin Prosperity Institute at the University of Toronto ranked the Cleveland metro area number one in income segregation among large metro areas. Median household income in just one of the primarily black zip codes in the area is greater than $24,000. By contrast, median income among white households in the area is nearly $57,000. Low incomes may be the result of a sluggish labor market. In 2013, 20.2% of black Cleveland residents were unemployed, the highest rate among large metro areas and nearly four times the white unemployment rate of 5.4%.

Want to see what segregation looks like in America today? Take a drive on New York's Long Island, one of the most racially segregated portions of the country. I grew up there, and the differences between adjacent white and minority towns can be so sharp it's as if invisible fences divide them.

Two villages, Hempstead and Garden City, lie adjacent to one another in Nassau County. Hempstead has a medium household income of $52,000. Garden City's is $150,000. Hempstead, in parts, resembles an inner city — with bodegas, laundromats, low-rise apartment buildings. Garden City is a suburban idyll, with tree-lined streets, gourmet grocery stores, and large colonial-style homes. Garden City is 88 percent white; Hempstead is 92 percent black and Hispanic (split about evenly). The transition between the two villages occurs within one block, a visual whiplash. See for yourself. Travel up North Franklin Street on Google maps.

"Long Island is becoming more diverse, Nassau County is becoming more diverse," says John Logan, a Brown University sociologist who has been studying demographics since the 1970s. "But within Nassau County there's been hardly any change in the degree of segregation. The predominantly minority areas are becoming more minority. And the predominantly white areas are staying mostly white."

A good way to evaluate these neighborhoods is to look at the elementary schools, which often represent a sub-community of a larger school district. Overall, suburban schools are academically better than city schools. But white suburban schools are better than black and Hispanic suburban schools. "The average black or Hispanic elementary school student attends a school that ranks below the 45th percentile in the state," Logan writes in his paper. The average white student in the suburbs? They attend schools that score above the 60th percentile.

Again, Long Island lends a dramatic example. There, the percentage of schools that instruct mostly minority students has more than doubled in the last 20 years, according to a report out of the University of California (Los Angeles). The percent of intensely segregated schools — school where less than 10 percent of the students are white — has increased as well, from 4 percent to 11 percent from 1989 to 2010. Black and Latino students attend school with nearly triple the percentage of low-income peers than typical white and Asian students.

Yes, but at least the American and British camps didn't have wholesale, industrialized scale murder taking place.

They used fire storms and atomic bombs in lieu...
The Axis considered these war crimes...
When the British erected a statue to honour "Bomber Harris", there was a major outrage in modern Germany...

But yes, these events were nowhere near the scale of the slaughter by the Axis and Communist regimes...

What to you think about the stories regarding: "Eisenhower's death camps"...?

Well, another difference is this: for the most part, Southerners are allowed to take pride in their heritage; the Germans are not, anymore.

The antebellum South was a horrible society IMO. And Southerners today hanker for those good ole days when slaves chopped cotton. Yes, Germans dont erect statues of Hilter and Rommel, unlike the South, where you cant walk ten feet without tripping over one of Lee or Davis.

That's what southern Americans need to realize. Mark Twain has always been a symbol of southern heritage. Liberals aren't trying to take him away because he was a good person.

Mark Twain isn't who most people think of when the topic of banned books comes up but the popular author has managed to earn a spot on the ALA's list of most contested books almost every year. His popular novel The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has been contested for many reasons. Some readers object to the strong and sometimes racist language and think it's inappropriate for children. However, most educators think given a proper context the book is a great read

n 1885, Concord Public Library banned the book, attacking the novel as "absolutely immoral in its tone.” One library official noted that "all through its pages there is a systematic use of bad grammar and an employment of inelegant expression

In 1902, the Brooklyn Public Library banned The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn with the statement that "Huck not only itched but he scratched," and that he said "sweat" when he should have said "perspiration."

In general, the debate over Twain's The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn has centered around the language of the book, which has been objected to on social grounds. Huck Finn, Jim and many other characters in the book speak in regional dialects of the South. It is a far cry from the queen’s English. More specifically, the use of the word “n****r” in reference to Jim and other African-American characters in the book, along with the portrayal of those characters, has offended some readers, who consider the book racist.

Although many critics have argued that Twain’s ultimate effect is to humanize Jim and attack the brutal racism of slavery, the book frequently flagged and protested by students and parents alike. It was the fifth most-frequently-challenged book in the United States during the 1990s, according to the American Library Association.

Yielding to public pressure, some publishers have substituted "slave" or "servant" for the term that Mark Twain uses in the book, which is derogatory to African Americans.

In 2015, an ebook version published by the company CleanReader offered a version of the book with three different filter levels—clean, cleaner, and squeaky clean—a strange edition for an author known to enjoy swearing.

Last month, the mayor of Atlantic City tore down a fiberglass statue of the 19th-century author that had been erected at the intersection of the Atlantic City Boardwalk and Missouri Avenue. The statue was part of new tourist attraction campaign using replicas of state landmarks and celebrities to decorate each block of the famed Boardwalk. In May, vandals smashed and pummeled Twain’s face beyond recognition.

Twain’s knee-jerk Jersey critics said the Missouri-born icon dishonored the heritage of Chicken Bone Beach, a section of the Jersey shore where blacks were segregated until the 1950s. “It’s truly disgraceful that a writer who used the n-word to describe African Americans has taken center stage at Chicken Bone Beach,” William Marsh, president of the local branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, told the Atlantic City Press.

“You can’t just say he was writing how people talk, and overlook what he wrote,” the NAACP’s William Marsh said last week as he cheered the removal of Twain’s statue overlooking Chicken Bone Beach. Yet, that’s exactly what the anti-Twain marauders have done

To be sure, the Allies didn't have clean hands during the war, and Eisenhower's treatment of German POW's was indefensible.

I'm a little surprised...
Most people resist the notion...

What do you know about the "Morgenthau plan"?
What do you know about the estimated effect on the German population, had it been implemented?

Had the Morgenthau plan been implemented, Germany would have been reduced to an agrarian society, which would have meant widespread poverty, starvation, and disease. Or in other words, it would have made Germany ripe picking for either communism from the east, or a resurgence of fascism. Any plan for a culturally liberal Germany would have been impossible. But even if implemented, what nobody save maybe Patton foresaw was that the next great rivalry in Europe after Hitler was gone would be the Soviets and their satellites vs the democratic west. There would have been little choice but to scrap the Morgenthau plan, as a militarily strong Germany was a necessity.

Sorry to tell you, but the Civil War wasn't just about slavery. It was a states' rights issue.

And you should look up one of Abraham Lincoln's quotes on blacks and whites. You might not like what he had to say on the matter; he was clearly saying that whites were the superior race.

Lincoln was not the savior everyone wants to make him out to be.

^^Lol, that pic reminds me of "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter"

Sorry to tell you, but the Civil War wasn't just about slavery. It was a states' rights issue.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

This Constitution, and the laws of the Confederate States (sic) made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the Confederate States (sic), shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.