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19 Apr 2018, 1:04 pm

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Yeah, I got my 2nd warning recently for being a "NAZI" promoting "white supremacy".

That's because you were promoting white supremacy.

You argued that inventions=intelligence. In response, me and TFoB pointed out that misogynists use the same argument. You, predictably, chickened out.

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Several times, "leftie" users accuse me of "not having emotion".

Of course, I have "flat affect" all my life. All my life my parents would tell me "smile more". I would think this would be a big part your life if you have an ASD.

If you have "flat affect", it's not simply facial expressions; it's like part of your emotional system is blunted.

Well ... I don't think that anyone should face discrimination because of their flat affect. I also understand the difference between a flat affect and sociopathy.

As far as I can remember, I never accused you of being emotionless, nor did I ever degrade you using ableist language. It's easier to just point out all of the lies and misinformation in your arguments.

So, I tell "Lies", I spread "Misinformation", I might have "Sociopathy", and I "Chickened Out".

Do you see why you got labeled a "manipulator" earlier in this topic?

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19 Apr 2018, 1:33 pm

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So, I tell "Lies", I spread "Misinformation", I might have "Sociopathy", and I "Chickened Out".

Do you see why you got labeled a "manipulator" earlier in this topic?

LNH, In all honesty you could report that person for baiting (or trolling) and probably belittling.Oh wait a minute, you're not a progressive are you?
Never mind...but you might get a TOS for attacking that person.

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19 Apr 2018, 1:34 pm

AngelRho wrote:

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Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.

Golly what are you doing here? According to DarthMetaKnight he manipulated you into getting yourself banned.

Oh I did get a temporary ban for no specific reason, but DMK gives himself too much credit as a manipulator. Of course, by admitting to being a manipulator he has admitted to being a troll himself since manipulation is the essence of trollery.

While I'm sure the groundwork is being laid for a permanent ban, I will still be here but under a different IP address, different username, and different online personality so you won't recognize me. The groundwork for that has already been laid, too.
I don't take getting f****d lying down.

I feel you. I’ve got some hate spreading around me atm. I handle it by avoiding protected classes and reporting the haters when necessary. Trying to bully someone into violating TOS when they aren’t allowed to defend themselves is itself a violation. I won’t hesitate going to mods when that happens.

I used to feel doing that was just being a PAB, but it has become vital to my continued existence here.

The trolls can troll and try to bully all they want, I find that amusing. What get's old with me is the mods playing favorites and it's been this way since I've been here.

They do. And mods are human and biased and make mistakes. And it seems to me most aspies on WP favor leftist ideology, and why that is isn’t really worth going into right now.

It took me a while to figure it out, but it’s all a game to them. The users, not the mods. I dunno, maybe the mods, too. I sounded off about it once and had a mod, and I’m serious when I say this, no sarcasm, gently counsel me on how to broach certain abrasive topics. Before that, I was sideswiped when a mod dropped the hammer on me more than once until I figured out someone I was debating was playing underhanded and dirty.

That’s when I started learning that it works both ways. The left on WP is not allowed to offend any more than the right. If someone says something and rules don’t allow you to defend yourself or your views, have a mod shut it down. I’m not in the habit of doing that, but I very recently had someone harass me out in the open. It would be just as wrong for me to be someone or something I’m not, and I’m not going to change my views if I’m right, and I’m not going to lie about it. So I just politely say, “I can’t discuss that, but I can discuss THIS...” and hope that’s the end of it. If not, that’s what mods are for, and I’ve never had a problem since.

I don't think we're both on the same page here...

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20 Apr 2018, 4:44 pm

Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

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20 Apr 2018, 5:17 pm

Raptor wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

So, I tell "Lies", I spread "Misinformation", I might have "Sociopathy", and I "Chickened Out".

Do you see why you got labeled a "manipulator" earlier in this topic?

To the right, the mods are unfairly biased towards the left.

To the left, the mods are unfairly biased towards the right.

People see what they want to see.

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20 Apr 2018, 5:19 pm

AngelRho wrote:

Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

Yes....up until the point we call you on your bullsh_t.

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20 Apr 2018, 11:05 pm

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Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

Yes....up until the point we call you on your bullsh_t.

lol

I think it’s because in my experience my opponents were always in a rush to report me, and to this day I don’t agree that it was right.

After the second time I had a few friendly exchanges with a mod who explained to me how this works. The more sensitive, easily triggered liberal types were the ones reporting me and some others. I didn’t like reporting people because I saw it as mean spirited and unnecessary, and I had a hard time understanding that I couldn’t answer certain questions honestly without breaking some site rule. Reporting certain people is necessary because it’s bullying behavior to use mods and site rules to push people like me around when we have no way to defend ourselves.

Those particular site rules and the mods are sometimes the only advantages we have. I still believe in reporting people being the exception and not the rule, and I welcome being called on bs if I’m the source of a problem.

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21 Apr 2018, 12:53 am

AngelRho wrote:

Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

I'm actually very good at manipulating people. It's the skill we learned as small children for manipulating our parents and grandparents, but taken to new advanced levels and eventually evolving into mind f*****g people.

It's easier and the rewards much sweeter to do this in real life than on the internet, and you'd be f*****g surprised at what I've done to a few deserving enemies in real life. Best part is that I didn't even have to break the law to do it, and in a few cases made myself out to be the "victim" in the eyes of others. :twisted:

It's do-able online but certainly most effective when ditching your existing account and creating a new one from a new IP address. It really takes a clean slate (no posting history) to build up a usable false persona before commencing operations. I'm actually not very experienced at this but a younger me did do one in the last decade that seemed to be quite effective at wreaking havoc on an enemy website's message boards.

It takes about equal portions of creativity, sadism, vindictiveness, consistency, and subtlety. And the best part; it's done and is most effective totally without any trolling, personal attacks, and other garden variety internet shenanigans.

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21 Apr 2018, 1:00 am

XFilesGeek wrote:

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LoveNotHate wrote:

So, I tell "Lies", I spread "Misinformation", I might have "Sociopathy", and I "Chickened Out".

Do you see why you got labeled a "manipulator" earlier in this topic?

To the right, the mods are unfairly biased towards the left.

To the left, the mods are unfairly biased towards the right.

People see what they want to see.

I don't know about that. In my experience, the average liberal is actually less tolerant than the average conservative. With this, they see any tolerance of conservatism to be intolerable and will do whatever it takes to quash it.

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21 Apr 2018, 1:15 am

XFilesGeek wrote:

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Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

Yes....up until the point we call you on your bullsh_t.

But you have our resident full time troll posting bullsh_t threads left and right and issuing taunts right under your noses.
"But you can report him!" you say, and to which I reply "But to what end? It seems you can't even see him."
Besides, I find his antics amusing. Kind of like watching a capuchin monkey trying to f*ck a football.

Something to think on... :chin:

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21 Apr 2018, 2:19 am

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I think it’s because in my experience my opponents were always in a rush to report me, and to this day I don’t agree that it was right.

It's how they suppress the opposition. It's unlikely that they are actually triggered or even offended, just feigning it to gain the sympathies of the mods and using them as their personal tools of suppression.

It's similar to the little schoolyard worm in elementary school that goes and pushes or slugs another kid from behind, then runs for the protection of one of the teachers who think they are defending a victim from a pursuing bully.

I can see right through them and, as I've said before, that's why they tend to amuse me more than anything.

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21 Apr 2018, 3:24 am

That's a tough one. Conservatives tend to be obsessed with jobs and the unemployment rate, which suggests that they are either unemployed or know someone who is. On the other hand, they tend to be hypocrites in terms of their stance on spending on social services as they're generally against it unless they need it, at which point they're suddenly all for it. Things like EI and welfare would be something important to someone who needs them even if they do identify as Conservative. Ergo, I have my doubts that many Conservatives do need them, meaning the evidence suggests they're largely not unemployed.

So...I can't say which is the truth as the data I've gathered from observation has proven to be fairly paradoxical. Maybe many Conservatives know someone who is unemployed but aren't unemployed themselves and don't share a household with the person they know who is?

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21 Apr 2018, 10:40 am

Well... the best known "far-right internet troll" is in the White House. Though his career as an internet troll predated his oval office career he was hardly unemployed when he took up tweeting. :lol:

But probably yes, in general trolls who are "extremist" of any kind (right left center top or bottom) probably do tend to be individuals with a lot of time on their hands.

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21 Apr 2018, 2:29 pm

Raptor wrote:

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To the right, the mods are unfairly biased towards the left.

To the left, the mods are unfairly biased towards the right.

People see what they want to see.

I don't know about that. In my experience, the average liberal is actually less tolerant than the average conservative. With this, they see any tolerance of conservatism to be intolerable and will do whatever it takes to quash it.

I totally agree with this.

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21 Apr 2018, 2:30 pm

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AngelRho wrote:

Raptor: The point being it's possible to use forum rules and mods to your advantage.

Yes....up until the point we call you on your bullsh_t.

I totally agree with this, as well----I'm so SICK of the double standard----and, I think I know who you're talking-about, and I have wondered the same thing about his drivel and attacks and so-forth: "Why is this person constantly overlooked/excused/whatever"! ! We have Mods, here, who seem to absolutely SIT on the "Active Topics" Refresh button (which is totally efficient, IMO), so it seems there's no way they don't see the crap that he pulls, but, yet, that's okay with them. I don't get it.....

I'm so sorry you were temporarily banned, Rap----I know it doesn't bother you, but it bothers ME, because I feel the standard should be: "What's good for the goose, is good for the gander", and I don't see that, at ALL.

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21 Apr 2018, 2:32 pm

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I think it’s because in my experience my opponents were always in a rush to report me, and to this day I don’t agree that it was right.

I feel I can see right through them as well (too bad the Mods can't)----and, I feel your analogy of the schoolyard bully, was spot-on----BUT, I counter that some of them DO get offended by some of the people, here, who DARE to be audacious enough to challenge their "brilliance", and whom DON'T think they're special like Mommy and Daddy (or their spouse, or somebody) told them they are.

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