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Is anyone in this thread talking about ignoring that?

I was just replying to your statement, "if I were just paying attention to those making the least I'd be way more of a mess than I need to be." don't pay me any mind, i'm just old and feeble.

Maybe I can rephrase it for you like this: I don't want to spend all of my time focused on the people around me who want to slit each other's throats and drink each other's blood. I know they're there. I know I have to be mindful of them. If I payed all of my attention to them all the time I'd be stressed and dismal enough to be destroying my own health - IMHO if I did that part of the problem would be my own doing. Paying attention to them as much as I have to is bad enough on its own. I'd add - I don't see the point in ignoring the people who make sense and seem to be able to make headway with an impressively broad swath of the populace simply because more animalistic people are there and I have to, at least part of the time, be aware of that later group for the sake of watching my own back.

I definitely don't ignore those smarter than me. but there is this thing called dunning-kreuger which indicates that a critical mass of people DO ignore them or are incapable of comprehending them with the necessary accuracy. that is how we ended up where we're all at. the tyranny of the majority would not be so bad if they were more capable people of good will, in that majority. the lowest common denominator is killing us all, as well as playing right into some toxic string pullers at the top.

I really don't think it takes the majority. People have been sleeping at the wheel for thousands of years while a small handful reshaped culture around them. If you at least give most people a blue ribbon trophy for breathing and say "You're a star!" or give them some type of entertaining reality tv moment to chuckle at they'll eat it up.

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A good UBI vid, and I think he hits the important issues well. I think UBI will be necessary, the biggest downside risk will be government possibly even being able to have more sway over voting and opinion.

in contrast to the quasi-utopia proposed, the basic observable facts of human nature tell me that it could also head towards a dystopia in the way of an encroaching culling of obsolete people. I would bet more on the latter. the people whose thinking influenced the authorship of the Georgia guidestones [maximum population of 250 million] are not outliers.

No kidding.


There's the story of what those are (check Wired for that), and then there's the InfoWars story of what those are.

whomever created the guidestones, the thinking expressed in them preceded them, the stones are just the symptom of absolutely corrupted power and megalomaniac god complexes running rampant among the .1% and their wannabes. what I believe will happen eventually, is that eugenics will become a dominant way of life on earth or at least in amuuurica, and that the .1% may make a deal with the "useless eaters" [most of us rendered obsolete by technology], "surrender your freedom (including the freedom to reproduce and have any say in your life) and submit to de facto slavery in exchange for the most basic food and shelter- or die. take it or leave it."

TY. I think I need to stop responding to these.

Eric, with a guy even more eccentric than Russel Brandt (yes - I suppose such happens!), talking about not just how unnatural but also just how precarious and unstable the current cultural dominion is. I remember Jonathan Haidt saying something like, with Soviet imposition on speech and beliefs, that the silent and cowed majority, when they know they're all bowing to something they neither believe nor like, spring out of it the old paradigm evaporates pretty fast.

Apologies on being a big gruff last night.

The point I was making about the Georgia Guidestones:
https://www.wired.com/2009/04/ff-guidestones/

I caught the scent of who actually had them built and lets just say esotericists can be tone-deaf hippies too. The Georgia Guidestones were apparently intended by some Rosicrucians, who were worried that the world was going to go through some cataclysmic upheaval, as an insurance policy for some ideas that they considered good at the time to survive a massive dark age. The stones were also commissioned back in 1979, back when the view was quite a bit more common and popular that such coming dark ages or mass die off of humanity were very likely. The idea that these stones would get read by some, especially in the spiritual warfare community, as a manifesto from a Malthusean or even satanic ruling elite and their surprise at such interpretation is as humorous as watching people from PITA get completely dumbfounded when no one wants to drink dog milk when they find out what it is.

All too often where it looks like true evil could be speaking its intent it turns out simple cluelessness and lack of imagination suffices as the proximate cause.

Saying that doesn't erase that there are some scumbags at the top of society, or that we don't have some serious deep-rooted problems in our wiring with respect to our being more inclined in a lot of situations to zero-sum competition even in preference to collaboration. Yes, it's bad. It only gets worse if we completely give up on it.