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Yes, I look at quantum physics on a daily basis, and it is so well-defined that we build mobile phones, computer chips, and LED displays by using those well-defined natural principles, So, to people in my profession, quantum principles are very clearly defined, and to people who lack STEM training and experience, "quantum" is just another word for "magic".

Science investigates, seeks to understand, natural or material phenomena. If supernatural or non-material phenomena exist, if there is a non-material reality, it is outside the domain of science. This is sensible because, by definition, only the natural/material world can be investigated. To say we could investigate a supernatural, non-material, phenomena would mean that we understand it to have objective existence, some implicit order and be capable of interaction. That would bring it into the natural, material, sphere.

The world of energy and matter is the only reality and that the mind, emotions, thoughts, perceptions, dreams, et cetera, are merely emergent functions of it.

Nothing can happen without cause; nothing happens that cannot happen, and when what was capable of happening has happened, it may not be interpreted as supernatural. Consequently there is nothing supernatural. Therefore only this conclusion may be drawn: What is incapable of happening never happens, and what is capable of happening is not supernatural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r58GQYFZeLE

An example I often use in Reference to what Science Measures Versus what Art Measures is that Even Rock Star of
Science, Astro Physicist, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Readily Admits that the Inner Universe of our Human Being is
Relatively Uncharted NOT Measured territory Versus the Observable Empirically Measurable Universe
in Material Reductionist Ways outside of us. He even Admitted to Katy Perry that Her grasp
of the Inner Universe of Being Human is Much Larger than His as that relates to what
she can provide of Her Inner Universe and that of other Artists who Provide Works
of Art to Express what otherwise might not be experienced More of the Human Emotional
and Sensory Experiences of Life if not for the Music and other Arts all Artists Bring to Enhancing
our Subjective Experiences of Life that often Defy what Science says about the overall topic of Life.

One Example is the Power of the Placebo Effect that is real and all about the Vague Word and Very Real
Essence of Human Belief. When that Force is Large enough and yes, Real Enough, what otherwise that is
Defined by Medical Science as Incurable Disease is on the Record of going into Unexplainable Remission at
the Measure of Science. The Tool of Science is a rather simple one; just a number of steps from Hypothesis
to be Measured and Repeated and Confirmed by other unrelated Scientists and it is restricted to what may be
Observed Empirically so and Measured in a way that can and will be replicated and Confirmed by other Scientists.

Human Consciousness does not Comply with Measures of Science. In Fact, Scientists who use the Scientific Method
can measure some Material Reductionist Parts of how the Brain Works but the Synergy of how we Navigate our LIfe's
Experience in Broad Scope of Conscious and Sub-Conscious Mind is better Relegated to the Expression of Art than
any tiny Small View of Scientific Method. In other Words, Science has the Parts, the Notes, the Letters, the Numbers
for Metaphor; whereas, the Human Soul as Metaphor is the Symphony for the Entire Orchestra it Plays of Life
Experience as it is more Advanced than any Scientific Tool can and will Imagine for of course Science is no
Imagination at all as Science is only a Concrete Tool; whereas, the Human Experience in even every
Word we Co-Create is Metaphor at Essence as the Definitions of Words at Essence Change at
the Whim of Human Imagination and The Fruition of Co-Creativity we as a Species of Human
Create in Artful Ways together. In Fact, Social Scientist Jonathan Haidt refers to a Rational Delusion;
as Humans as Modern Neuroscience Shows are controlled by Emotions and Senses in our Older Brains
of Limbic System and Reptile Brain as the Neo-Cortex is actually Servant and not Leader of those two much
Older Brains on the Scale of overall Animal Kingdom Evolution for Basic Survival in Subsistence gaining activities
as well as the Strive for Reproductive Success as in our case is very much Driven by Social Cooperation in Limbic System
Measure of Warm and Fuzzy Holding Hands and Hugging inspired by the Neurohormone Oxytocin that for some folks
doesn't work 'normally' and for those who cannot enjoy this Deep Comfort of Warm and Fuzzy; for all practical intents
and purposes that experience of life is 'Super Natural' to them for it literally does not exist in their Multi-Universe
View within. Our Universes in Reality are those of what we Hold in the Experiential Inner Universe of being
Human in each unique Multi-Universe of what we see in regard to all our feelings and senses now.

Some folks experience a Much Larger Multi-Verse View of Existence; for some the Metaphor is beyond Rainbow Colors
of Flavors, Tastes, Smells, Sounds, Dances and Songs of Life they touch with their Soul Deep Deep down and
Express to others who have enough Context in Experience to relate Mutually and Consensually to their
Multi-UniVerse View of Life. Other Folks Live somewhere within the Realm of Shades of Grey, just out
of the Grasp of the Black Abyss Night of the Soul and so far away from the Depth of Feeling and
Sensing Life that makes a word Like Heaven dull in a response to relate. For those of us now
who have explored life more with Right Brain Metaphor of thinking and feeling and sensing
Life versus Left Brain Metaphor of Collecting words and spitting them back at other
Folks with as close to the same concrete meaning that we can relate as the Multi-Universe
Views of Life in metaphor are for all practical Intents and Purposes now Natural Versus Super-Natural
for those who see life in more Black and White and Shades of Gray Shades of Life Versus Multi-Color Beyond
Rainbow Views. But it's True, Social Scientists Like Jonathan Haidt are starting to Navigate this World that Artists
Have Related to others Receptive to Larger Multi-Universe Views of Life for the Ascendent, Transcendent Altered
Consciousness Views of Life; as I will Link that below for those "Horatio's" who have not explored their much Greater
Epigenetic and Neuroplastic Potentials of Life in unpacking more of their Potential Genetic Material as DNA expressed
thru Appropriate Positive Challenge and Adaptation and Change in Life as it's true we are limited by the Environment of
Learning we are exposed to and what we limit of ourselves too. This Life is one of Sitting in the Cave and Sticking
with the Same Cave Art or moving out into the Light and Creating New Light Art whether there is an Old Cave
Target Audience for it or not as that is what the Right Brain Metaphor of Think and Feel and Sense does;
It Moves out of the Cave into the Light to use more Colors of Imagination and Creativity as that comes
to Fruition of the Art we Make, yes; Ah, but yes, the Challenge is to Articulate that back to those
Still Living in the Cave with the Old Cave Art that might tempt them to walk a few steps
out and then a few steps more until Life becomes a Dance and Song that is never
Felt and Sensed or even Imagined or Thought of Before. How Beautiful
This Great Adventure of Life is when we are no longer Afraid of
Change or how others Experience so much more of Life in Colors than what
We Feel and Sense and Think now. Is it possible? Yes, it is as I have documented my Entire Experience
From Stuck in Left Brain think of Collecting Data and Spitting it back out like a Robot and a Computer
to Heights of Art where i have to Travel Around the Globe to find folks who have the Contextual Experience
of Life to even understand where I Exist on the Spectrum of Art and Creativity now. But only if you See, I can and will;
I understand through History that this is nothing new. You cannot expect to go on an Expedition in Exploration
of Human Potential and expect anyone to follow you there. Some Folks Move out of the Cave and Some folks
are either too Terrified or Apathetic and stay. What I do know and feel and senses is this; I used to
Live in
Hell and now
I live in a new Dimension
of Inner Universe as Multi-Universe
of Human Being that I as an individual
had no idea existed before; and if not for
the Art to even attempt to explain this place
that exists within; I would be otherwise very
Selfish not to do my Best to Show folks this place most definitely
Does Exist; and for all Practical Intents and Purpose although it is very
Natural and Real it is more than Real for all practical Intents and Purposes
for most
folks
and
Supernatural, now, still.

For Just another Quick Example, Research shows that some Autistic Folks have Deficits
in the Functioning of Mirror Neurons in our ability to put ourselves in other People's shoes
as that relates to Basic Human Affective Empathy. Whereas, in other Research, the Studies show
the opposite for another Group Studied where they have Extreme Functioning of Mirror Neurons
where watching someone's Harm get touched is like having your Arm touched as sure if you use a little
imagination, even if you don't have that real Human Potential, you might see how that might be extremely
Pleasurable or Extremely Uncomfortable if around enough Negative Stuff; where a person now might have
to Socially Withdraw themselves; not because they have too little Human Affective Empathy; but because they
Have too much; as the Quintessential Example of a Real Life Empath now; The Same applies to Tactile Sensitivity
too for I as an Individual have such a heightened sense of touch, I cannot stand to touch most Man Made Materials
as such; It's not hard to see how that would limit one's Social Experiences too around Man Made stuff as the Difference
between being able to Sweep a Carpet at Work or it being literally Intolerable to do for this is a kind of Sensory
Empathy too, where even imagining doing it is intolerable too. This Explains a lot about the DSM5 Criteria
And how it clearly states some Autistic Folks are Hypo-Sensitive to the Environment and others are
Hyper-Sensitive to the Sensory environment and how that relates to all Human Senses and
Feelings too.

So yeah; You've seen one Autistic Person and you've seen just one; some may be extremely Empathic
in all the Colors and Flavors of Life as that comes; and others may be almost Numb to the Experience
of the Multi-Universe Views of other Folks now. And it is also true, this Human Potential, overall, is not static
and only innate and inborn; for even Science Shows that Empathy is a Human Intelligence that may be learned
for a much richer experience of Life as well as the Artistic Versus Science Mind Experience and Expression of Life.

Otherwise, it's not likely that I could have remedied my Robot and Computer-like Mind back into the World
of Social Empathic Mind as Expressed in Art as Neil deGrasse Tyson Describes is what Katy Perry does in
Genius-Like Intelligence that he currently has no road to take at this Point in his life. Meh; I come here
as an Anthropology Participant Observer to see how the 'other side' as I did once lives to remind myself
of where I came from; and just how far I've taken my Potential in the last 5 Years and in some small
or yes larger way Help those who are stuck in just Half A Globe of Mind Exploring their way out
to a place
they might
Define as
Heaven one Day
they Master in a Regulation
of Emotions and an Integration
of Senses that Works for them. Free Verse
Poetry in connecting Words Back with Emotions
has worked as a Meditative Free Verse Flow of Life
in Art that takes me more toward the Alpha through Theta
Mind Waves of Life. And also for those who Study this Flow and
Expanded State of Mind and Body Being, the Phrase that is used to
describe it as even Brain Scans can measure it in limited view is "Transient
Hypo-Frontality" where the Neo-Cortex is dampened and the Rest of the Brain
Lights up out of Past and Future Worry Clock Time Illusion of Existence into Open
Ocean View Wave Life. And for those who find an actual Mind and Body Practice in
the continuing Greater Potentials to Master this Expanded Mind and Body Awareness
in our Potential of Being Human; they arise to what is known and felt and sensed to an
"Autotelic" State of Being where they develop the Literal Potential to raise the Levels of all
5 Basic Positive Neurochemicals and Neurohormones at Locus and Focus of Relative Free Will
as the Synergy of that and other related Neuro-Chemicals and Neurons-Hormones is still beyond
Scientific
Measure
to
this Point;
And yes, NeuroScientists For Real
also suggest now that we Basically
Hallucinate our Reality in Subconscious
way with our Feelings and Senses Driving
with Neo-Cortical and Rational Support on
A Tier Below the Driving Force of Emotions in
All of what we do as the Neo-Cortical Mind Works
Best as Servant Opposed to Slave of Addiction for those
who do not Master in Relative Free Will the Good Feelings and Senses of Life Generated from within.
I've gone to a Great Deal of Effort to put this into words where someone somewhere at least will understand
it now and take advantage of it as they do now for real. And while 6 Million Words of Free Verse Poetry in Epic
Long Form Poem Way has taught me much for putting the otherwise ineffable into Arts and Sciences of Words.
The Major Driving Force and Muse has been a Spiraling Golden Mean Ratio of Free Style Public Dance now for 10,000
Miles in the Same 5 years now that I wrote those 6 Million Words of Free Verse Poetry that I have shared around the
World in 7 Blogs where Hundreds of Thousands of Folks in just one of the Archive Blogs have Viewed my Human
Potential as it increased in real time there. Yes, it's true, it's not often true that one can view an Astronaut on the
Entire Trip
to their
Internal
Star Uncovered
but I intuited where I
was going Long before
I got tHere to the place I exist now
as that is the Metaphor of a Right
Brain Intelligence that can and will be expanded now too.

It's really hard for some folks to understand that it is the journey that counts most now;
Not the Dollar Bills, or the Likes, or the Follows, or even the Smart Phone Video Voyeurs
who have filmed my Public Dance Free to spread that Free verse Ministry of Dance around the World
where i Live in Flesh and Blood now; but it's true; they have yet to arrive and Perhaps one day 'they' will too.

Some Folks Call my Dance Crazy;
Some Folks Call it the Stuff of Legend;
Some Folks Just Stay in the Cave and Look Away.

But Never the
Less it is real and exists.

And as I also often 'tale' folks; just to avoid any potential
Future Confusion; I'm not 'the' Batman'; i am Just 'A' 'Batman' with Winks.
Bottom Line here is if one pooh pooh's what one doesn't understand one may never arrive for now
in places
like Heaven;
and this verily is
No New Human Story;
but yes, it's true for some it is
that which is not of their World, at
least not yet; as sure; i hold out hope for 'them'/'you' too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYsx6WArKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQvKql2GwCU

If you can't impress them with content, dazzle them with construction.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." (William Shakespeare, Hamlet)
What whould our life be without our phantasie?

If I walk through a city there are lot of walls mostly dirty and white or grey or brown. But I can start to imagine that they are full of flowers which grow anywhere on the walls and make them beautiful, friendly and colorful. This isn't difficult to imagine and as soon as I start to imagine that kind of stuff the walls stop to be dirty and grey and start to look much more friendly and nice and full of flowers to me. But my imagination does only change my mind and not the walls as they are. Even if my imagination makes them more beautiful and friendly it's not reality and the walls stay as they are. I don't want to miss my phantasy but if I start to believe that the flowers are a real thing I start to have really a big problem.

i find that sort of stuff interesting and entertaining. i like listening to the cost to cost radio show that have guests talking about things like remote viewing, fringe science, the paranormal and so on. and i watch videos of that nature. i am too much of a cynic to truly believe in most of it, but i do like to entertain it in my mind.

Thanks for the information Bether3. I will be sure to check out the book. I have been watching a lot of documentaries about this subject lately and I feel as if I should keep an open mind.

Good luck with your explorations!

There's a scene in the film "Waking Life" in which a character touches on lucid dreaming and he says one sure way to tell if you are dreaming is to try the light switches; if the light doesn't turn on, you're asleep.

I would love to experience past life regression. I've listened to several past life hypnosis sessions by Dr. Brian Weiss via YouTube, but nothing happens.

...I awoke one night to a burning sensation on my arm. I turned on the light and saw three distinct, fresh scratch marks.

Still waiting for proof that the immeasurable actually exists.

However, I have noticed that the more a person takes a psychedelic drug, the more they are apt to believe in this kind of thing and/or experience it.

... the intention for this thread is for others to share their knowledge and resources regarding mysticism...

Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

Your interest in this thread is that which is not of this thread. Get ye from this place!

the opposite for another Group Studied where they have Extreme Functioning of Mirror Neurons where watching someone's Harm get touched is like having your Arm touched as sure if you use a little
imagination, even if you don't have that real Human Potential, you might see how that might be extremely
Pleasurable or Extremely Uncomfortable if around enough Negative Stuff;”< That would be me. Seeing acts of compassion have a overwhelming, powerful effect on me. When someone tells me of a struggle they are going through, or if someone starts to cry, I'll start to tear up, cry. It's the same if I see someone in pain, or throwing up, I'll feel it, start throwing up. I get "sympathy pains" often. I have been told that ever since I was an infant I was extremely sensitive to the feelings of those around me, and extremely loving and empathetic. It’s a blessing, but can be a curse, as I tend to not only feel, but absorb the pain of those whom are suffering around me.