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08 Jan 2019, 8:29 pm

Claiming someone was born ready to be president is like saying I have 25 years of experience developing cat photo iPhone apps.

That's not reality.


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08 Jan 2019, 11:00 pm

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This sub-forum is a lot more aggressively left wing than aggressively right wing. Even most/all of the mods who post here display being lefties.


Perhaps it's because people here need health care & food?

I claim no political alignment of my own whatsoever, I'm just a humanist who can't make any sense of people forming their whole lives around politicized cash flows.


I don't know what my political alignment is either. I'm not really aligned with anything outside of my own mind. I do however often see rhetoric that seems like people have been programmed to repeat.

A lot of people who had affordable healthcare through their employer lost it through obamacare. But left slanted media doesn't cover those hardships. It just boasts about how healthcare is available now. Which really means that it's now mandatory or people face big tax fines for not having it - it's not as rosy and humanitarian as CNN et al portrays it.

The liberals and democrats Fight For 15 - forcing the minimum wage to $15 per hour has caused food prices to skyrocket. That means that those on disability who didn't get a raise are suffering.

I see democrats forcing so-called improvements that cause as much or more of a problem than they amend and people acting like programmed robots taking about how the left wing is saving the world.

People with autism tend to be gullible. They also tend to not see duplicity. Maybe that's why so many are ardently left wing.



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09 Jan 2019, 12:01 am

EzraS wrote:
cberg wrote:
EzraS wrote:
This sub-forum is a lot more aggressively left wing than aggressively right wing. Even most/all of the mods who post here display being lefties.


Perhaps it's because people here need health care & food?

I claim no political alignment of my own whatsoever, I'm just a humanist who can't make any sense of people forming their whole lives around politicized cash flows.


I don't know what my political alignment is either. I'm not really aligned with anything outside of my own mind. I do however often see rhetoric that seems like people have been programmed to repeat.

A lot of people who had affordable healthcare through their employer lost it through obamacare. But left slanted media doesn't cover those hardships. It just boasts about how healthcare is available now. Which really means that it's now mandatory or people face big tax fines for not having it - it's not as rosy and humanitarian as CNN et al portrays it.

The liberals and democrats Fight For 15 - forcing the minimum wage to $15 per hour has caused food prices to skyrocket. That means that those on disability who didn't get a raise are suffering.

I see democrats forcing so-called improvements that cause as much or more of a problem than they amend and people acting like programmed robots taking about how the left wing is saving the world.

People with autism tend to be gullible. They also tend to not see duplicity. Maybe that's why so many are ardently left wing.


What was supposed to have been done about the people who had no insurance through their employers? What's supposed to be done about people who get so little payment from their jobs that they can't afford enough food or medical care?


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09 Jan 2019, 12:19 am

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EzraS wrote:
cberg wrote:
EzraS wrote:
This sub-forum is a lot more aggressively left wing than aggressively right wing. Even most/all of the mods who post here display being lefties.


Perhaps it's because people here need health care & food?

I claim no political alignment of my own whatsoever, I'm just a humanist who can't make any sense of people forming their whole lives around politicized cash flows.


I don't know what my political alignment is either. I'm not really aligned with anything outside of my own mind. I do however often see rhetoric that seems like people have been programmed to repeat.

A lot of people who had affordable healthcare through their employer lost it through obamacare. But left slanted media doesn't cover those hardships. It just boasts about how healthcare is available now. Which really means that it's now mandatory or people face big tax fines for not having it - it's not as rosy and humanitarian as CNN et al portrays it.

The liberals and democrats Fight For 15 - forcing the minimum wage to $15 per hour has caused food prices to skyrocket. That means that those on disability who didn't get a raise are suffering.

I see democrats forcing so-called improvements that cause as much or more of a problem than they amend and people acting like programmed robots taking about how the left wing is saving the world.

People with autism tend to be gullible. They also tend to not see duplicity. Maybe that's why so many are ardently left wing.


What was supposed to have been done about the people who had no insurance through their employers? What's supposed to be done about people who get so little payment from their jobs that they can't afford enough food or medical care?


What was supposed to have been done was affordable healthcare being provided to them without it screwing over so many others by making it mandatory for everyone, taking away what others once had. Many people with little payment still can't afford healthcare or food, because the price for both has become so high through obamacare and the huge leap in minimum wage. But liberals seem to refuse to acknowledge that aspect of it.

At least Trump removed the penalty people have to pay for not being able to afford obamacare. Think about that; no healthcare and then a big fine for not having it. Is that a good system?



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09 Jan 2019, 12:27 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
cberg wrote:
EzraS wrote:
This sub-forum is a lot more aggressively left wing than aggressively right wing. Even most/all of the mods who post here display being lefties.


Perhaps it's because people here need health care & food?

I claim no political alignment of my own whatsoever, I'm just a humanist who can't make any sense of people forming their whole lives around politicized cash flows.


I don't know what my political alignment is either. I'm not really aligned with anything outside of my own mind. I do however often see rhetoric that seems like people have been programmed to repeat.

A lot of people who had affordable healthcare through their employer lost it through obamacare. But left slanted media doesn't cover those hardships. It just boasts about how healthcare is available now. Which really means that it's now mandatory or people face big tax fines for not having it - it's not as rosy and humanitarian as CNN et al portrays it.

The liberals and democrats Fight For 15 - forcing the minimum wage to $15 per hour has caused food prices to skyrocket. That means that those on disability who didn't get a raise are suffering.

I see democrats forcing so-called improvements that cause as much or more of a problem than they amend and people acting like programmed robots taking about how the left wing is saving the world.

People with autism tend to be gullible. They also tend to not see duplicity. Maybe that's why so many are ardently left wing.


What was supposed to have been done about the people who had no insurance through their employers? What's supposed to be done about people who get so little payment from their jobs that they can't afford enough food or medical care?


What was supposed to have been done was affordable healthcare being provided to them without it screwing over so many others by making it mandatory for everyone, taking away what others once had. Many people with little payment still can't afford healthcare or food, because the price for both has become so high through obamacare and the huge leap in minimum wage. But liberals seem to refuse to acknowledge that aspect of it.

At least Trump removed the penalty people have to pay for not being able to afford obamacare. Think about that; no healthcare and then a big fine for not having it. Is that a good system?


Your guys on the right have never come up with a viable health care plan, save for what eventually became Obamacare. Yes, that's right, what became Obamacare, along with it's mandate was originally dreamed up by the right wing Heritage Foundation. What is your team going to do about the millions of people who wouldn't have coverage without Obamacare? Other than letting them die.


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09 Jan 2019, 12:41 am

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Your guys on the right have never come up with a viable health care plan, save for what eventually became Obamacare. Yes, that's right, what became Obamacare, along with it's mandate was originally dreamed up by the right wing Heritage Foundation. What is your team going to do about the millions of people who wouldn't have coverage without Obamacare? Other than letting them die.


There's million who have coverage available, but the thing is, they can't afford it. That's the trick in wording that you fall for. Millions now have healthcare available, because it's become mandatory - and you stop there - do go don't go further to realize how many can't afford it.



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09 Jan 2019, 12:51 am

EzraS wrote:
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Your guys on the right have never come up with a viable health care plan, save for what eventually became Obamacare. Yes, that's right, what became Obamacare, along with it's mandate was originally dreamed up by the right wing Heritage Foundation. What is your team going to do about the millions of people who wouldn't have coverage without Obamacare? Other than letting them die.


There's million who have coverage available, but the thing is, they can't afford it. That's the trick in wording that you fall for. Millions now have healthcare available, because it's become mandatory - and you stop there - do go don't go further to realize how many can't afford it.


No, there are millions of low income people who never had to pay for coverage, or much of any, thanks to Obamacare. My family are such recipients. You make it sound like nobody has medical coverage due to Obamacare.


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09 Jan 2019, 2:15 am

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That was nothing positive, it's the ideology of a bygone sexist era with no real respect for anyone's rights. I just think you're shooting at your own feet.

Alright then, your job is a result of science. Technology would not exist otherwise.

I'm going to take offense anyway, because what you saw as positive is just insulting towards all kinds of guys. It implies inequality. There is nobody born more worthy of anything than anyone else, particularly not guys.

More propaganda.

I see lots of positives from trump and lots of negatives from democrats.

What you see as positive is insulting to towards all kinds of guys too.



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09 Jan 2019, 2:43 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Your guys on the right have never come up with a viable health care plan, save for what eventually became Obamacare. Yes, that's right, what became Obamacare, along with it's mandate was originally dreamed up by the right wing Heritage Foundation. What is your team going to do about the millions of people who wouldn't have coverage without Obamacare? Other than letting them die.


There's million who have coverage available, but the thing is, they can't afford it. That's the trick in wording that you fall for. Millions now have healthcare available, because it's become mandatory - and you stop there - do go don't go further to realize how many can't afford it.


No, there are millions of low income people who never had to pay for coverage, or much of any, thanks to Obamacare. My family are such recipients. You make it sound like nobody has medical coverage due to Obamacare.


What happened is they robbed Peter to pay Paul. People who work hard doing menial jobs in service industries like culinary, janitorial, maintenance, security etc. Uniform and namebadge jobs. Those people lost good affordable healthcare so that you could get subsidized obamacare. You get what they now have to pay an arm and a leg for at a substantially reduced price because you're a "starving artist". And it seems like you getting yours is all you care about and tough beans to the others.



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09 Jan 2019, 2:46 am

sly279 wrote:
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That was nothing positive, it's the ideology of a bygone sexist era with no real respect for anyone's rights. I just think you're shooting at your own feet.

Alright then, your job is a result of science. Technology would not exist otherwise.

I'm going to take offense anyway, because what you saw as positive is just insulting towards all kinds of guys. It implies inequality. There is nobody born more worthy of anything than anyone else, particularly not guys.

More propaganda.

I see lots of positives from trump and lots of negatives from democrats.

What you see as positive is insulting to towards all kinds of guys too.


Goodbye thread, it was cool before everyone magically heard my thoughts. :roll:


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09 Jan 2019, 2:59 am

cberg wrote:
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That was nothing positive, it's the ideology of a bygone sexist era with no real respect for anyone's rights. I just think you're shooting at your own feet.

Alright then, your job is a result of science. Technology would not exist otherwise.

I'm going to take offense anyway, because what you saw as positive is just insulting towards all kinds of guys. It implies inequality. There is nobody born more worthy of anything than anyone else, particularly not guys.

More propaganda.

I see lots of positives from trump and lots of negatives from democrats.

What you see as positive is insulting to towards all kinds of guys too.


Goodbye thread, it was cool before everyone magically heard my thoughts. :roll:


What was cool about a thread that was started by making outlandish accusations against other members? Really it just amounted to a personal attack and probably should have been locked.



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09 Jan 2019, 3:42 am

cberg wrote:
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That was nothing positive, it's the ideology of a bygone sexist era with no real respect for anyone's rights. I just think you're shooting at your own feet.

Alright then, your job is a result of science. Technology would not exist otherwise.

I'm going to take offense anyway, because what you saw as positive is just insulting towards all kinds of guys. It implies inequality. There is nobody born more worthy of anything than anyone else, particularly not guys.

More propaganda.

I see lots of positives from trump and lots of negatives from democrats.

What you see as positive is insulting to towards all kinds of guys too.


Goodbye thread, it was cool before everyone magically heard my thoughts. :roll:


I just repeated back what you said, so you are saying you read our thoughts?



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09 Jan 2019, 4:56 am

That's rich. I've seen a ton of left-wing posts attacking conservatives here. I'd call those posters "trolls," but then I'd be called out for allegedly putting out a personal attack on people.


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09 Jan 2019, 6:03 am

This was partly directed at me, and in addition to calling me a "troll', several "left wing" members have accused me of "lacking emotion".

Then I have to point out, that YES, all my life, I have had mostly "Flat affect".

All my life, I been told, "YOU NEED TO SMILE MORE" or "Show some emotion".

That's part of the "brain damage" that I feel. It affects emotional response.

That means I don't have much facial wrinkling, because ALL MY LIFE, I have had much reduced facial responses.

Flat affect is common in people with an autism spectrum disorder. Some people with autism appear to have little emotional reaction to activities.
https://www.healthline.com/health/flat-affect


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09 Jan 2019, 6:16 am

You should never have to defend yourself in this forum. Only the position you are maintaining.

Ad Hominem: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.



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09 Jan 2019, 11:08 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
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Your guys on the right have never come up with a viable health care plan, save for what eventually became Obamacare. Yes, that's right, what became Obamacare, along with it's mandate was originally dreamed up by the right wing Heritage Foundation. What is your team going to do about the millions of people who wouldn't have coverage without Obamacare? Other than letting them die.


There's million who have coverage available, but the thing is, they can't afford it. That's the trick in wording that you fall for. Millions now have healthcare available, because it's become mandatory - and you stop there - do go don't go further to realize how many can't afford it.


No, there are millions of low income people who never had to pay for coverage, or much of any, thanks to Obamacare. My family are such recipients. You make it sound like nobody has medical coverage due to Obamacare.


What happened is they robbed Peter to pay Paul. People who work hard doing menial jobs in service industries like culinary, janitorial, maintenance, security etc. Uniform and namebadge jobs. Those people lost good affordable healthcare so that you could get subsidized obamacare. You get what they now have to pay an arm and a leg for at a substantially reduced price because you're a "starving artist". And it seems like you getting yours is all you care about and tough beans to the others.


Most of those people working menial jobs were the very ones who never had healthcare.
Now I'll ask you again, what the hell are you guys on the right going to do to provide healthcare coverage for the rest of us?


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