What do you hate most about your own country?

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The so-called "exotic animal protection law" which is an evil oxymoron of a joke, which says that animals like reptilian pets will be killed if found, in the name of protecting them. Although softened a couple years back, it only allows 3 turtles, 5 or 7 lizards and about 9 snakes IIRC.

How our no-good politicians bend over every time the gd peasants demand to shoot wolves because they can't be bothered with protecting their stock so demand the poor redlisted animal killed instead.

How regular people are chanceless against the state, in things like child care services (which are usually far from protecting kids and all about stealing them from good homes and destroy the lives of kids and parents, ruining families)

For these I absolutely hate official norway.


also hate the joke that is our justice system, for reasons of ridiculous sentences. practically no punishment or justice for serious crime like fauna crime, mistreatment of animals, sex crimes, violence (unless you defend yourself, then you get all the blame) and murder

What do you think of Andre Brevik's sentence?

Sociologically speaking - if you don't have all the exact same interests as other people, watch the same TV shows, play the same video games, it's read the same as bad social skills, lack of status, etc., and it turns into social conformity being the high water mark in evaluating whether a person should be around socially or just about even walk out the door in the morning. It's a bit like if you're different in any way and aren't either a college professor, CEO, or world class musician to excuse the eccentricity you hardly have any right to exist and you're all but forced to admit that you're truly and deeply inferior just by sheer dint of numbers even when such an appraisal in most ways is mindless, qualitatively neutral, and just arises from a law of averages working against you.

I get that the above is a human tendency everywhere and anywhere but I hear quite often from people who've lived in other places and other countries that it's less extreme in other places than in the US. Even within the US I hear that it's less extreme in places where, relative to the 'brain drain', people of high intelligence have moved to and more extreme in the places where intelligent people have moved away from - and the place I live is much the later.

I think we did a lot to avoid it. Pearl Harbor was hit in 1941.... The request for Japan's surrender came on July 26th, 1945. They chose not to. What do you think happened in the interim? Lots of soldiers gave their lives, including being eaten alive by sharks after the Indianapolis was sunk.

Japan awoke the sleeping giant, they got more than they bargained for.

The problem with certain people is that half the time they have no idea what they are talking about. They just love to get indignant about something and then be be dramatic.

The thing I hate most about my country is it's success. We have nothing left to strive for. We have forgotten what it means to work the land from Sun up, to Sun down. To be too busy/tired trying to survive to worry about what someone else has. We have forgotten the gratitude for a full root cellar, a decent meat store for the Winter months. Those who struggled went from farm to farm, in search of goodwill and work.We have eased God out, due to urbanization. Anyone connected to the land knows there's a higher power.

Well...Hiroshima DID save hundreds of thousands of American lives, It DID shorten the war, It also saved millions of lof Japanese lives - most of whom would have been civilians- who would have died if we had invaded the Japanese homeland, and tried to win the war "the old fashioned way".

Whatever, when we blow this planet up turning it into a hellish wasteland and the only things left are the cockroaches feasting on our rotting corpses the people like me won't even be around to say "We told you so!"

What really surprized me about WW2 were the figures. By far, of every country involved in WW2 on both sides... By far the most deaths were with the Russians. This was partly because of the cold (Where the Germans fighting against them also suffered a great number of losses as at one time they chose to attack during the winter months assuming they could gain the upper hand... And partly because the Germans used a new weapon on the Russians known by them as fuel air bombs. When these were used it gave a huge mushroom cloud and thousands of people died at the same time who were in the area. The effects of the early nuclear bombs were actually very similar. Did we copy them? Who knows....

DRAMA...

Nobody is planning on blowing up the planet. The Japanese were noble fighters, they NEVER would have surrendered Twizty, EVER. Only the threat of having NO country to fight for stopped them. They didn't care about civilians or lives lost, suicide was considered more honorable than defeat. Kamikaze...

But if there was no land, what would've been the purpose of continuing to fight? The Atomic Bomb was nothing to be proud of, per se. But, the whole country didn't disappear and lives were saved.

IMHO, I think that any American dweller who just hates other countries just because they're different (yes, their cultures may be odd, but still) should NOT deserve to be called 'True Americans'. They're actually being Anti-Non-Americans.

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Yes, what we did to Japan was a war crime and Americans refuse to acknowledge that because we are a nation of ethnocentric self-absorbed jerk-offs who can get away with ANYTHING. It makes me want to vomit every time I think about it. Seriously!

And Persephone, you call it drama, I call it an inconvient truth.

I hate the sentiment that the only reason a person can be "poor" is if they're lazy/stupid/bad.

I watched a Ted Talk on Youtube about a man who lives in a so called third world country. He said that homelessness was not an issue. If someone aanted a house they would build one. No oe owned land. They would just find a suitable place and go and build.
They grew crops. He said that it didn't take long to grow the crops.. As in the man hours put in. He said he grew enough to feed a few families on just a short time a day. I think he said he spent 15 minutes a day?
He said the western world classified his country as a third world country. They told the villagers they had to gyo to the city to work to get money. They never had any need to earn money. But he did. He said that to get a home was committing ro a mortgage and 40 years of hard work and you only ended up with a small flat. You worked and worked and had nothing to show for it. After a few years, he came to his senses. He moved back to his little village. He built himself a few more houses. He said his houses are luxury compared to those city flats. He said he now has seven houses! He is only working a short time a day. The rest of the day is relaxing or spent with the other villagers.

Has the western world been sold into slavery and held to rasom by the few ultra rich who lend money expecting a huge return?

Money. How money keeps you poor. Why? Money is limited in its supply to control it.
Lets say there is 1000 pounds (Or dollars) in circulation in a small community. One man lends a pound to another man and expects to be paid two pounds back. But where does the extra pound come from because there is no extra pound in circulation. There is no extra pound in circulation. Every pound was backed (Used to be) by gold. Since it no longer is... When a bank now lends money, it just writes a cheque from thin air. We are not allowed to do this... But banks are. These days they just type a figure.
Now when the UK was tied to the gold standard, inflation did not exist. As soon as the gold standard was done away with we had inflation.
Real inflation is very different to inflation rates. It is all about purchasing power.
Lets say I was in the years 1978 to 1979... Or 1980. I remember saviing for a train which cost me £2.50. They still make the exact train today. Back then it was slightly overpriced to cover the manufacture of the tools to make them as they had not long been introduced. Today? They have an official recommended retail price of £35, though most shops sell them for about £25 to £28 due to competition.
The purchasing power of £2.50 is no longer able to buy the aame amount that it once did. This is the real effect of inflation and the reason why we have it, is due to banks issuing loans with money they never had in the first place, so it weakens the currency.
The gold standard. Gold is used as a standard. If I was in 1978 to 1980 and I exchanged a certain weight of gold to get the vaue of £2.50 to buy the model train. If today, I took the same weight in gold and did the same thing, it would cover the todays £25 value of the train. Why? Gold has been given a set standard which does not change.
Then how come gold prices rise and fall? Gold prices rise when ones currency is failing. If ones currency is doing well, gold prices fall. The best indicator to how good or bad ones currency is, is to compare it with the gold prices.

What was bad was that because individuals wanted revenge on the Japanese, they delayed the information that Japan had already surrendered until after the two A bombs were dropped, thus resulted in the largest war crime in history and no one was held accountable for this.

Where did you read this?

I'm not referring to what happened in Japan as drama. I'm referring to your description of wastelands and cockroaches feeding on dead corpses as drama. I think the US regrets the bombing of Japan. I also think that because of Japan they use much caution and several fail safe strategies so that no one US person holds the fate of a country or the world in their hands. I cannot say the same for IRAN. If the world ever becomes a wasteland, it will be Iran that is responsible.