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Are Catholics the only Christians?
Yes 11%  11%  [ 9 ]
No 89%  89%  [ 70 ]
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17 Aug 2007, 12:36 pm

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Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.

Saying "up to 50% of priests and monks are homosexual" is a meaningless figure designed to spark a huge outcry because people assume there must be about 50%. Even 1% is "up to 50%" and even that is probably on the high side.

I'm not condoning paedophilia and think it is particularly reprehensible coming from people who are respected in the community and whose position generally inspires trust.

The pope was a member of the Hitler Youth, but that wasn't unusual for kids his age.

I think that was when membership was compulsory anyway.

Even if it wasn't, from his point of view (as a child) it just would have been a really popular social organisation (sort of like boy scouts). You can't hold the kids responsible for their parents enrolling them in that.

He enrolled when he was 14. Hardly a kid.



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17 Aug 2007, 12:55 pm

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Saying "up to 50% of priests and monks are homosexual" is a meaningless figure designed to spark a huge outcry because people assume there must be about 50%. Even 1% is "up to 50%" and even that is probably on the high side.

No, "50%" was the actual stat. I added the "up to" part. It's common knowledge. I mean, in our society, gays have more pressure to be celibate than straight people do. So, it's easier to take a vow of celibacy when you're already celibate anyway. Heck, I wish I could cash in on my celibacy, but of course that reward is given in the next life.
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I'm not condoning paedophilia and think it is particularly reprehensible coming from people who are respected in the community and whose position generally inspires trust.


Indeed. The C. Church's problem is that it doesn't give human sexuality its due. It's a powerful instinct, second only to eating, and you can't just "make it go away for life"; you have to deal with it. One way is in marriage, but the C. Church won't let its priests marry; Paul said forbidding marriage is a doctrine of demons: "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth" (1 Tim 4:1-3).

Priests should not be forbidden to marry. If they want to stay single, then great, but there's no need to add that burden to their many other ones.


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17 Aug 2007, 12:57 pm

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Heck, I wish I could cash in on my celibacy, but of course that reward is given in the next life.

lol You keep telling yourself that, Fagtime. :lol:



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17 Aug 2007, 1:02 pm

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I actually applaud the pope's decision on this one, and I'm not even a christian.

Don't think yourself original in this regard -- unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals. Rather strange, until one investigates the spiritual cause.
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So, for the first time since the end of open persecution of protestants, the Catholic church again makes sense.

:lol:


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17 Aug 2007, 1:04 pm

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unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals.

I just think they're all s**t. I'm surprised more people don't. :?



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17 Aug 2007, 1:07 pm

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unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals.

I just think they're all s**t. I'm surprised more people don't. :?


Ya, maybe you're missing something.


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17 Aug 2007, 1:13 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals.

I just think they're all s**t. I'm surprised more people don't. :?


Ya, maybe you're missing something.

How so?


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17 Aug 2007, 1:17 pm

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unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals.

I just think they're all s**t. I'm surprised more people don't. :?


Ya, maybe you're missing something.

Yeah, I guess I'm missing that special thing that turns me into a delusional nutcase. :(
Oh well, I'm sure I'll get over it one day.



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17 Aug 2007, 1:20 pm

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unbelievers frequently approve of Catholicism, even while denegrating evangelicals.

I just think they're all s**t. I'm surprised more people don't. :?


Ya, maybe you're missing something.

How so?


A truth other people see.


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17 Aug 2007, 1:33 pm

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Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.
Here's a wealth of historical information to get you started:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm


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17 Aug 2007, 1:36 pm

Ragtime wrote:
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Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.

STFU You sheep-shagging Catholic.



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17 Aug 2007, 1:40 pm

Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Pandora wrote:
Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.

STFU You sheep-shagging Catholic.


You're so mature. :)
Teenagers these days... :roll:


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17 Aug 2007, 1:44 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Pandora wrote:
Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.
Here's a wealth of historical information to get you started:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm

This is a religious site attacking another religion, don't know if I should take that seriously.

A question, does the current pope happens to be a pedo too?


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17 Aug 2007, 1:49 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
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Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.

STFU You sheep-shagging Catholic.


You're so mature. :)
Teenagers these days... :roll:

I won't be a teenager in a few months.
You're hardly the most mature person in the world either.
Sheep-shagging perverts these days... :roll:



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17 Aug 2007, 1:56 pm

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Ragtime wrote:
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Ah Ragtime, I would like to know where you got your information?

For instance, where did you get the idea that the current pope was a Nazi soldier? I've never heard of that one and find this assertion quite far-fetched! He would not have been elected Pope if he had such a murky past.


He was a Nazi. Look it up. And then-presiding Pope Pius XII sat quietly by while the Nazis massacred the Jews and many other "undesirables". And many other popes in history had innocent blood on their hands. Do some research. (See Crusades, Inquisition for starters, then move to those they attacked and killed in the streets when they disagreed on a particular Catholic, not to say Christian, doctrine.
Here's a wealth of historical information to get you started:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm

This is a religious site attacking another religion, don't know if I should take that seriously.

A question, does the current pope happens to be a pedo too?


Where do you think his evil grin came from? J/k, I don't know, but my step-mom said, "He looks like he knows he's gotten away with something."


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17 Aug 2007, 1:59 pm

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I don't know, but my step-mom said, "He looks like he knows he's gotten away with something."

So do you.
But we all know what that is.