Conservative and Right Wing cancel culture
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There have been numerous laws passed and bills proposed, and other attempts to ban, blacklist, and defund individuals, institutions, and companies who support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions Israel movement.
Anti-BDS laws
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I know this is a hard thing to imagine with todays tribal politics but one can be a liberal but hold conservative views.
The idea that sex is bad comes from conservative religious thinking and certainly the idea that certain music is satanic comes from that space. Just because when these views were more mainstream liberals and Democrats held and pandered to those views does not change that they are conservative views.
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Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
McCarthy was not right by any degree. McCarthy was a demagogic gadfly out to gain personal aggrandizement by exploiting Anti Communist paranoia, resulting in ruining people's lives.
What communists in congress? Sanders is a social democrat, while the Squad hardly fit the definition of communists, so no. In fact, white nationalists have had a real presence in congress, such as the thankfully voted out Steve King.
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Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
Are socialist views not entitled to be expressed in a democratic society? Should they be cancelled?
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The idea that sex is bad comes from conservative religious thinking and certainly the idea that certain music is satanic comes from that space. Just because when these views were more mainstream liberals and Democrats held and pandered to those views does not change that they are conservative views.
I would have to disagree with much of your statement. But more than anything It seems that this shows how far the culture has degenerated in the past 30 or so years if having standards and morals (as Mrs Gore does) are now considered "Right Wing Extremism".
Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
Are socialist views not entitled to be expressed in a democratic society? Should they be cancelled?
Socialism is a transitory phase on the way to communism. Communism is slavery to the government and antithetical to a democratic society.
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Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
Are socialist views not entitled to be expressed in a democratic society? Should they be cancelled?
Socialism is a transitory phase on the way to communism. Communism is slavery to the government and antithetical to a democratic society.
You sound like a Leninist. Not all socialists agree with that view, only Marxist-Leninists.
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“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas, this is part of our strategy” —Netanyahu
"Many of us like to ask ourselves, What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you're doing it. Right now." —Former U.S. Airman (Air Force) Aaron Bushnell
Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
McCarthy was not right by any degree. McCarthy was a demagogic gadfly out to gain personal aggrandizement by exploiting Anti Communist paranoia, resulting in ruining people's lives.
What communists in congress? Sanders is a social democrat, while the Squad hardly fit the definition of communists, so no. In fact, white nationalists have had a real presence in congress, such as the thankfully voted out Steve King.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... 0socialist.
According to Wikipedia Bernie is a Democratic Socialist.
The fact that our government is crawling with socialists proves McCarthy Correct.
No matter what modifier you give it or how you pretty it up, socialism is a dangerous and evil system.
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The idea that sex is bad comes from conservative religious thinking and certainly the idea that certain music is satanic comes from that space. Just because when these views were more mainstream liberals and Democrats held and pandered to those views does not change that they are conservative views.
I would have to disagree with much of your statement. But more than anything It seems that this shows how far the culture has degenerated in the past 30 or so years if having standards and morals (as Mrs Gore does) are now considered "Right Wing Extremism".
I called these ideas "conservative". That the "goalposts" have been moved in certain circles to make it "Right-Wing Extemism" does not change that in order to uphold these conservative standards attempts were made to cancel what was considered immorality.
If one is to really defend free expression one has be against censoring things one hates. It is difficult to do, really difficult sometimes. Too difficult for modern Americans it seems.
All the defending the free speech only one likes has destroyed the credibility of free speech advocates putting us in the precarious position we are in.
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Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
Ok then. Explain to me how those individuals are akin to soviet communists. Preferably something more meaningful than "they're socialists, duh!". That's just regurgitating a label.
You do know that just cos someone slaps a label on it, that doesn't magically make it that thing, right? Just cos I write "diamonds" on the side of a cardboard box full of broken glass doesn't mean I suddenly have a box of diamonds. Just cos the USSR CALLED themselves "socialist" doesn't mean they actually OPERATED that way. It's called a "scam".
Equally so, calling those individuals "socialists / communists" simply to equate them with the failed soviet state is a strawman at best. If anything, they would call themselves "democratic socialists", and if you're already jumping up and down ready to point out "SEE?! SOCIALIST!!", you can kindly calm down and sit down. "Socialism" and "communism" both come in many flavors, and are both different from each other in important ways.
While you're at it, why not argue that socialism has already been a keystone of american culture and politics for ages. After all, I bet you, and most americans, have a SOCIAL security card, issued by the Department of SOCIAL Security. Many people call SOCIAL services when they have problems. Most americans LOVE government instituted SOCIAL programs, like SOCIAL security, or SOCIAL safety nets like unemployment and disability benefits. Not to mention the fact that we fund SOCIAL infrastructure like roads and parks, that COMMUNALLY benefit everyone, by COLLECTIVELY paying taxes into SOCIAL programs.
Hilariously, the closest american parallel to the soviet lie that was masquerading as "socialism" is "trickle-down-economics". Both worked the same way, contrary to the claims. "Give everything to the top, and it totally trickles down and disperses evenly" was the claim. In reality, they gave everything to the top, and the top just kept it, passed it around to others at the top. Soviet russia: "that's all there is, we swear, nothing left". Capitalist America: "we can't pay you any more, that's all there is". In both cases, there WAS more, it was merely hoarded.
The real hilarious part is when people try to make people like Bernie look like the "wealthy elite". Bernie is worth around two million dollars. That might sound like a lot if you're not used to dealing with big numbers. But a billionaire (just ONE billion) is worth 500 times that. Mark Zuckerberg at 66 Billion is worth 33,000 times what Bernie is. Politics is a pay to play game, money is necessary to be a part of it in a meaningful way. Bernie himself usually looks like he's from the macklemore thrift shop video.
It's like people use words they don't understand...
Proven Correct.
Today's socialists and communists in Congress prove that McCarthy was right. Infiltration has be accomplished.
Examples; Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and all the rest.
Ok then. Explain to me how those individuals are akin to soviet communists. Preferably something more meaningful than "they're socialists, duh!". That's just regurgitating a label.
You do know that just cos someone slaps a label on it, that doesn't magically make it that thing, right? Just cos I write "diamonds" on the side of a cardboard box full of broken glass doesn't mean I suddenly have a box of diamonds. Just cos the USSR CALLED themselves "socialist" doesn't mean they actually OPERATED that way. It's called a "scam".
Equally so, calling those individuals "socialists / communists" simply to equate them with the failed soviet state is a strawman at best. If anything, they would call themselves "democratic socialists", and if you're already jumping up and down ready to point out "SEE?! SOCIALIST!!", you can kindly calm down and sit down. "Socialism" and "communism" both come in many flavors, and are both different from each other in important ways.
While you're at it, why not argue that socialism has already been a keystone of american culture and politics for ages. After all, I bet you, and most americans, have a SOCIAL security card, issued by the Department of SOCIAL Security. Many people call SOCIAL services when they have problems. Most americans LOVE government instituted SOCIAL programs, like SOCIAL security, or SOCIAL safety nets like unemployment and disability benefits. Not to mention the fact that we fund SOCIAL infrastructure like roads and parks, that COMMUNALLY benefit everyone, by COLLECTIVELY paying taxes into SOCIAL programs.
Hilariously, the closest american parallel to the soviet lie that was masquerading as "socialism" is "trickle-down-economics". Both worked the same way, contrary to the claims. "Give everything to the top, and it totally trickles down and disperses evenly" was the claim. In reality, they gave everything to the top, and the top just kept it, passed it around to others at the top. Soviet russia: "that's all there is, we swear, nothing left". Capitalist America: "we can't pay you any more, that's all there is". In both cases, there WAS more, it was merely hoarded.
The real hilarious part is when people try to make people like Bernie look like the "wealthy elite". Bernie is worth around two million dollars. That might sound like a lot if you're not used to dealing with big numbers. But a billionaire (just ONE billion) is worth 500 times that. Mark Zuckerberg at 66 Billion is worth 33,000 times what Bernie is. Politics is a pay to play game, money is necessary to be a part of it in a meaningful way. Bernie himself usually looks like he's from the macklemore thrift shop video.
It's like people use words they don't understand...
This. ^
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