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07 Aug 2007, 10:03 pm

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would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?

I would.



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07 Aug 2007, 10:04 pm

thank you Soph :P



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07 Aug 2007, 10:04 pm

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Yeah. I can't think of any logical reason why being gay would be 'wrong.' Therefore I'm not going to blindly follow some imaginary man who's supposedly telling me to pretend to be straight and go and screw some guy instead.

right on Soph... :P
(we need a rainbow flag in here) :mrgreen:

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07 Aug 2007, 10:04 pm

it's kinda pointless to go anywhere else here.

in the end... people do what/who they want


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07 Aug 2007, 10:07 pm

Sedaka wrote:
it's kinda pointless to go anywhere else here.

in the end... people do what/who they want

Exactly, we don't live 2000 years ago to be afraid of being killed and/or punished by law for having gay sexual relationships, at least in western societies. So it doesn't really matter in that sense.


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07 Aug 2007, 10:10 pm

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would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?

I would.


yes... but for you... i think we'd have to restrict it to sex with a male homosexual :wink:


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thank you Soph :P


and i think kilroy would have to do an asexual his whole life

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07 Aug 2007, 10:11 pm

Sedaka wrote:
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would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?

I would.


yes... but for you... i think we'd have to restrict it to sex with a male homosexual :wink:

In that case I will have to decline. :P



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07 Aug 2007, 10:14 pm

Sedaka wrote:
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thank you Soph :P


and i think kilroy would have to do an asexual his whole life

lol


8O what? ohh hell no!!



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07 Aug 2007, 10:18 pm

Kilroy wrote:
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thank you Soph :P


and i think kilroy would have to do an asexual his whole life

lol


8O what? ohh hell no!!

lol
How that would work? :?


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07 Aug 2007, 10:20 pm

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i think the concept of resist sex outside of marriage is completely diff than denying/accepting who you're sexually attracted to...

Again, you're absolutely right about that. As I said, the latter is NOT WRONG. Do you see me denying natural attraction to sin? Absolutely not; I love sin. Which is precisely why God has to intervene in my life -- because I'll be slowly destroying myself and others if I don't reign in some of my natural impulses, like becoming rich through the shortest physical route. I'm poor, but I could use my brains to obtain millions of dollars illegally from evil corporations who can afford the loss, and get away with it. I'm wickedly crafty. :twisted: The only thing holding me back is morality. God's morality. Left to my nature, I'm Satan's child. (And the Bible concurs on that. Since Satan runs and presides over this world, going along with the ways of the world is serving Satan.)

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and i have heard that god made sex pleasurable for a reason... (yes yes within marriage of course.......) so why should a foced-conversion gay-to-straight person have to suffer unpleasurable sex??????


I know you're going to slap me if I ask you to calm down one more time... :)
But, God doesn't ask anyone to have sex. God is not a god of rape, as anyone familiar with the likes of Ovid would read about the ancient Greek gods -- there was nothing Zeus and friends liked better than to soar down and rape human females. A girl named Europa got it on with a bull (Zeus, transformed), and conceived the European nation, if you believe those stories. :roll:

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cause clearly.... bad sex is one of the worst things in the world!


Well, there are worse things, true, but if you examine world history, you'll be AMAZED at what catastrophic downfalls moments of sexual looseness has produced. Sex seems so innocuous -- especially to Aspies like me -- it just seems like a harmless little physical act that two people who love each other could come to no harm from. But remember, when you're horny is when you're particularly vulnerable to blindness of surroundings and consequences. You tunnel-vision you're way to the orgasm -- all other awareness is set aside, and THAT'S where trouble can strike, including emotional baggage, to name the very least of unfortunate consequences.

But, there is some truth in what you say: Being a Christian is not about being gay, or straight, or celibate -- it's about loving and serving God, who, in turn, tells us to serve others with our love for Him.


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07 Aug 2007, 10:23 pm

Ragtime, have you been touched by His noodly appendage?



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07 Aug 2007, 10:25 pm

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Other than that I haven't seen any real gay bashing here

Someone told me they were gonna kill me once because I was a 'transexual fa***t.' :lol:


Richard was drunk. :P



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07 Aug 2007, 10:25 pm

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I "fathom" gay attraction completely, having experienced it before.
But why do we lie to ourselves in our political correctness, and DEMAND that EVERYONE IS either precisely 100% heterosexual, precisely 100% homosexual, or precisely 50% homosexual and 50% heterosexual?

Maybe there is a spectrum?


Exactly. Thank you.


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07 Aug 2007, 10:28 pm

Sedaka wrote:
i think the concept of resist sex outside of marriage is completely diff than denying/accepting who you're sexually attracted to...

the first is just a matter of principle and will power

to reverse the second would take considerable willpower to abide by.... but that's all youd be doing... abiding... you'd never reap the benefits of enjoying sex with a partner of the opposite sex... just as a hetero wouldn't really ever enjoy sex with someone of the same sex....

it would always be forced
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I'm not certain that I agree. Indeed, for me it
seems as much a matter of aesthetics as anything
else. I feel almost no attraction towards males, but
likewise, I feel nothing towards women who don't fit
my tastes. And, I do know that I've been able to link
sexual desire to things which even repulsed me (blood),
in order to please someone. So, while maybe it's true
for some people that there is no choice involved, I at
least, believe that I could learn to enjoy going the other
way.



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07 Aug 2007, 10:31 pm

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if you're gonna demand no gay bashing......... there should be no name calling and damning of their religion...


I don't think that, given the level of
freedom here, anything which would
qualify as hate speech was in his post.
And that seems to be the agreed upon
bar, which is set.