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16 Dec 2022, 11:35 pm
17 Dec 2022, 12:20 am
ToughDiamond wrote:
Should it be acceptable to call people nazis and fascists?
Cons: It's often inaccurate and denigrating.
Pros: Democrats are often called communists by those who portray communism as evil, and if there is such a thing as the class war, why should the Left pull its punches when the Right doesn't? Exaggeration pervades the rhetoric of most politicians and many ordinary people.
I don't worry about it, perhaps because I'm not easily swayed by horse s**t and for some odd reason I find it hard to believe anybody else could be. Ideally I'd much rather people just told the truth, but we clearly don't live in an ideal world, and as I've said, both sides throw s**t at each other all the time, so I guess it balances out.
Cons: It's often inaccurate and denigrating.
Pros: Democrats are often called communists by those who portray communism as evil, and if there is such a thing as the class war, why should the Left pull its punches when the Right doesn't? Exaggeration pervades the rhetoric of most politicians and many ordinary people.
I don't worry about it, perhaps because I'm not easily swayed by horse s**t and for some odd reason I find it hard to believe anybody else could be. Ideally I'd much rather people just told the truth, but we clearly don't live in an ideal world, and as I've said, both sides throw s**t at each other all the time, so I guess it balances out.
The term "Left-wing Nazis" is also used.
Karma?
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
17 Dec 2022, 12:25 am
lostonearth35 wrote:
People throw those words around like they're going out of style. I don't think most people even know what they mean. For example I heard that someone was called a Nazi because they believe in the Holocaust.
Up until recently, I found that term being directed at me extremely offensive.
These days it is "water off a duck's back".
Ppl who throw this pejorative around without a reasoned argument are simply embarrassing themselves.
17 Dec 2022, 1:15 am
Pepe wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Should it be acceptable to call people nazis and fascists?
Cons: It's often inaccurate and denigrating.
Pros: Democrats are often called communists by those who portray communism as evil, and if there is such a thing as the class war, why should the Left pull its punches when the Right doesn't? Exaggeration pervades the rhetoric of most politicians and many ordinary people.
I don't worry about it, perhaps because I'm not easily swayed by horse s**t and for some odd reason I find it hard to believe anybody else could be. Ideally I'd much rather people just told the truth, but we clearly don't live in an ideal world, and as I've said, both sides throw s**t at each other all the time, so I guess it balances out.
Cons: It's often inaccurate and denigrating.
Pros: Democrats are often called communists by those who portray communism as evil, and if there is such a thing as the class war, why should the Left pull its punches when the Right doesn't? Exaggeration pervades the rhetoric of most politicians and many ordinary people.
I don't worry about it, perhaps because I'm not easily swayed by horse s**t and for some odd reason I find it hard to believe anybody else could be. Ideally I'd much rather people just told the truth, but we clearly don't live in an ideal world, and as I've said, both sides throw s**t at each other all the time, so I guess it balances out.
The term "Left-wing Nazis" is also used.
Karma?
No I don't think there's any cosmic intervention in politics.
Quote:
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
Like I said, "ideally I'd much rather people just told the truth, but we clearly don't live in an ideal world." But there's often a few grains of truth in what political opponents say. They often use half-truths as a propaganda tool. And occasionally you get people with no axes to grind discussing politics pretty honestly.
17 Dec 2022, 11:41 am
17 Dec 2022, 7:51 pm
17 Dec 2022, 8:03 pm
17 Dec 2022, 8:39 pm
Pepe wrote:
The term "Left-wing Nazis" is also used.
Karma?
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
Karma?
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
so it's ok for MAGAs to label people communist?
17 Dec 2022, 11:13 pm
cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
If the shoe fits.
At an intellectual level, Trump's MAGA movement fit's the premise of what the White house calls them which is "semi-fascist"
Trump's political power is waning, and hopefully, he will be out of the picture soon.
God, I hope so.
17 Dec 2022, 11:17 pm
Juliette wrote:
Absolutely! Especially if they are! This was certainly the case a few years back in Germany. This involved a forest in Garmisch-Partenkirchen where things were going on that were a total eye opener.
The problem is, for some ppl, merely being a non-progressive is reason enough to call someone a fascist, nazi, or neo-Nazi.
Have you forgotten the "All Republicans are Nazis" war on WP?
17 Dec 2022, 11:24 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
The term "Left-wing Nazis" is also used.
Karma?
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
Karma?
The Truth?
Do you expect any semblance of Truth in a hyperpartisan political context?
so it's ok for MAGAs to label people communist?
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=410492&p=9194660#p9194313
But seriously, if a well-reasoned argument can be applied that satisfies the definition, then it would be valid.
Saying ALL Democrats are Communists is a gross generalisation and would be invalid.
BTW. It would also be against rulz if said on WP.
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