The hostage posters

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Well not to be insensitive, like I think it is sh***y for people to pull down the posters. But also what good does putting those posters up in the U.S do?

Notice that I used the word "some." It's impossible to know how "the majority" feel on this topic and how "tribal" and "obsessed with borders" they are in comparison to other places.

Bush Jr. when he launched the Iraq war was called a war criminal. So was Chaney and Rumsfeld.

It would be just as evil if people started ripping down posters of innocent Palestinians who have been killed in this war as the act of ripping down hostage posters is.

No I am speaking generally that US citizens should examine their own countries crimes before casting judgement on Israel following their own experience of a "9-11" which was "10-7". It just comes across as hypocritical.

OK, that makes sense in that context but you used it as part of validating torture in this very thread aimed at IL when she said no one should be torturted and at TP when she pointed out your flawed reasoning . It seems to me that you find it very difficult to aknowledge Israels treatment of Palestinians as wrong and perform mental gymanastics to validate it, which is entirely your perogative but don't expect members not to give you pushback on those kind of views.

Maybe cyberdad has never heard of propaganda television.

- Jonathan Pollard is a former US Navy intelligence analyst who was imprisoned for spying for Israel.
- Pollard said that the families of Israeli hostages should have been jailed to shut them up.
- "I was dead set against these 'kidnapped' posters because each one of them was a poison dart," he said.

Jonathan Pollard, a former US intelligence analyst imprisoned for spying for Israel, has called for hostages' families to be silenced and arrested.

Pollard told Israeli media that the families of Israeli hostages should have been jailed to shut them up. He also said posters of the captives should never have been hung up.

"When Israel declared war, the first thing that the government should have done was declare a state of national emergency and told all the hostages: 'You will keep your mouth shut or we will shut them for you,'" Pollard said.

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He said the Israeli government should have prevented the hostages' families from "interfering" with their management of this war.

He implied that the hostages' families were being "used by the international community" or "by our own leftists" as a weapon against the Israeli government.

"If that means imprisoning to silence certain members of the hostage families, then so be it — we're in a state of war."

It seems to me that you find it very difficult to aknowledge Israels treatment of Palestinians as wrong and perform mental gymanastics to validate it, which is entirely your perogative but don't expect members not to give you pushback on those kind of views.