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Mona Pereth
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12 Oct 2024, 3:12 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
One of my biggest fears is of the possibility of police departments taking QAnon and related conspiracy theories seriously, thereby reviving the Satanic Ritual Abuse witch hunts of the 1980's. (See the WP thread QAnon, Blood Libel, and the Satanic Panic.)

This could happen regardless of who wins the election (because too many cops have extreme right wing leanings), but could be especially dangerous and difficult to stop if Trump wins.

Organizational memory will hold that back quite a bit, especially for as much of an embarrassment as the Satanic panic ended up being for police and profilers.

I hope you're right about this. However, as the 1980's fade further and further into the past, I fear that the "organizational memory" may fade also -- or be overruled by a new, more conspiracy-theory-infected breed of top brass.

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The west coast case was even more interesting to the degree that Nick and Zena Schreck (Zena formerly LaVey) had a lot to do with talking people back to reality on what it actually was and wasn't (even though Zena, for quite sensible reasons, couldn't get far enough from her dad - out of respect for her she was not defending CoS and it's other problems). That was a great example of the witch-hunter detectives actually being open-minded enough to listen to practicing satanists to figure out what they were dealing with and it saved a lot of grief.

And today we have the Satanic Temple, yes.

But the Satanic panic of the 1980's did do quite a lot of damage while it lasted. Lots and lots of probably-innocent child care center workers were sent to prison. And lots of families were torn apart by probably-false "recovered memories" implanted by bad therapists.

A future revived Satanic panic would probably manifest in a different way. For example, it probably wouldn't infect the psychotherapy world the way it did in the 1980's.


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12 Oct 2024, 3:36 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
But the Satanic panic of the 1980's did do quite a lot of damage while it lasted. Lots and lots of probably-innocent child care center workers were sent to prison. And lots of families were torn apart by probably-false "recovered memories" implanted by bad therapists.

A future revived Satanic panic would probably manifest in a different way. For example, it probably wouldn't infect the psychotherapy world the way it did in the 1980's.

The most likely thing to bring that back would be the realpolitik of desperation, that's where I worry about certain areas of the US being left behind and what they become ideological breeding grounds for. VDH was talking about how many California farmers were self-deleting because international trade issues destroyed their livelihoods, putting people under that kind of existential stress typically doesn't yield pleasant outcomes (part of why I'm also really concerned with the amount of wrath Israel poured into Gaza and the likelihood that this happens all over again in another fifteen to twenty years).


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23 Oct 2024, 4:56 pm

If he wins, should abortion doctors perform the procedure in defiance of state bans (and a possible national ban)?

Should vendors sell alcoholic beverages in dry counties?

Should people walk around naked in public?

Should people spray-paint the "circle-A" anarchy logo and "ACAB" (all cops are b***ards) on various buildings in rural Alabama or Idaho?


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