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04 Sep 2007, 5:28 pm

I'm surprised that it seems that no one has brought up that the word "gay" has multiple meanings. It's not a question of whether Jesus was gay so much as in what way was he gay.


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04 Sep 2007, 5:34 pm

Nah, I have a feeling if he was gay he would have more likely been Russian...



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04 Sep 2007, 7:29 pm

He was gay cos he was happy, except for when they nailed him up. Then he got very pissed....


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04 Sep 2007, 7:35 pm

The_Chosen_One wrote:
He was gay cos he was happy, except for when they nailed him up. Then he got very pissed....


The happy was the gay I was alluding to. I'm not sure Jesus ever got pissed, although he might have sometimes had to take a piss in his human form. Imagine that image in your head, Jesus taking a piss...

Or don't, although it's probably too late. :twisted: The other thing is which Jesus our we talking about here. Our we talking about the Jesus that's the son of God or are we talking another Jesus. I know a Mexican guy named Jesus, (he pronounces it hay-soos) and he is a homosexual.


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04 Sep 2007, 7:40 pm

him and his merry men around a table :lol:
no wife/gf
I think...maybe



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04 Sep 2007, 8:18 pm

.....or he'd be a big Rammstein fan.....



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04 Sep 2007, 8:52 pm

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Great, another thread that's meant to offend Christians.

Of course not, in the same way that he didn't marry Mary Magdelene and go to live in Europe.


1. Tried to move it away from that.

2. Given the editing of women out of the
story, and the particular rights which are
expressed in the Bible, one can fairly argue
that a marriage was likely. Living in Europe
seems far fetched. THOUGH the whole mystery
of what the grail was (and the oddity of spelling)
does give some pause to think whether Mary did.
I would guess that basing the Merovignian dynasty
on Jesus's blood is going way too far though.



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04 Sep 2007, 9:53 pm

Given that the whole grail myth was ripped off from Celtic folklore from centuries beforehand anyway. Virtually everything that was written in the bible and that Christianity quotes as fact has been taken from anything from Celtic folklore to Egyptian beliefs to Astrology to Greek beliefs to even eastern mysticism (although the eastern stuff would have been included later during re-writes and translations as well). Jesus was only one of many prophets from different faiths, but the Christians want everyone to believe he was the ONLY one because they think they are the only ones who are right.
And fancy some Christians even denying that Mohammed was a prophet of equal stand with Jesus, or even Buddha, that is totally laughable in the extreme.


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04 Sep 2007, 11:16 pm

TCO - the use of pre-existing myths to
cover actual events though, was a popular
habit. The cycle of time, and all.



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05 Sep 2007, 1:15 am

Only the Christians embedded them into their own faith and called them their own, which said to later generations that they were the originators. Researchers later found out that the original myths were part of much older faiths. Smart move in a way, cos they thought no-one would uncover the older faiths.


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05 Sep 2007, 1:37 am

No, others did it too. Look at how the
flood story spread; or how the Roman
Gods took on the trappings of the Greek
ones.



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05 Sep 2007, 12:43 pm

The early Christians were Jews, many of whom did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. It wasn't until it became safe to really hate the Jews (i.e. not necessary to rely on their support or services anymore) that Christianized Jews decided to break with Judaism and turn the Bible into a Christian document that excluded the Jews. Divinifying Jesus certainly helped, making the new Christians the "chosen people.'


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05 Sep 2007, 4:01 pm

EatingPoetry wrote:
The early Christians were Jews, many of whom did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. It wasn't until it became safe to really hate the Jews (i.e. not necessary to rely on their support or services anymore) that Christianized Jews decided to break with Judaism and turn the Bible into a Christian document that excluded the Jews. Divinifying Jesus certainly helped, making the new Christians the "chosen people.'

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, considering that jewes only have the OT and never accepted NT writings.


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05 Sep 2007, 5:40 pm

Anubis wrote:
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Great, another thread that's meant to offend Christians.


There's proof of design, but not intelligence here.

Jesus was not homosexual seeing as that's against Biblical Law that Jesus kept. The paintings of Jesus by Renaissance artists are not an authority on what Jesus looked like or what he did. Back then men kissing was about as sexual as shaking hands is today. I'm saying "today" refering to before 1859 BTW as I'm sure that some weirdos now might find shaking hands to be sensual.



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05 Sep 2007, 5:45 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Jesus was not homosexual seeing as that's against Biblical Law that Jesus kept.


Where in the OT does it say homosexuality is wrong? I thought that was in the NT.


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05 Sep 2007, 5:51 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Jesus was not homosexual seeing as that's against Biblical Law that Jesus kept.

Maybe that is why he was rejected by tradionalists (fundamentalists) and condemn to death at the time?




Of course that is very likely not the case, in my opinion he must have practiced celibate all his life even though the claim of marrying Mary Magdalene which I have some doubts about it. The Davinci Code was interesting though.


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