Is Vegitarianism a sin

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I believe that immoral actions always produce negative consequences, though they may not be immediately visible. And this is where the confusion comes in. Someone says well why shouldn't I lie, and the answer given is "because GOD forbids it" or "because the bible says so" Morality must be prescribed, only because its effects are not immediately apparent. Just as the effect of my fingers on the metal prongs was not apparent to me as a child.


It becomes easier to understand if you set a definite goal, (true happiness,absolute truth,freedom from suffering) If these are your goals, then immoral actions are those which will keep you from your goal.

I believe it is morally wrong to eat plants. They never did anything to hurt us!

i think it is morally wrong to breathe air.

all those poor little oxygen molecules!

so that stuffs GA's breatharian aspirations. (or should that be "inspirations"? oh how we laughed...)

I need to keep eating meat to make me big and strong like bear. Im strong ya but no yet like bear.

Oh those bears will get theirs too. Just you wait.

Actually, if you are really worried about the welfare of plants, it is better to be a vegetarian - it takes 25 lbs of grain to make one lb of beef . . . poor little plants . . .

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Thanks for reminding me of the pet bunny my family has that I've wanted to eat for years. Too bad it's too old to eat.

Lol, I take it it's only a sin if you talk to a hardcore vegan who thinks vegetarians aren't cool enough or extreme enough. People like that though I wouldn't listen to. If you're a vegetarian and have your reasons (ie. health, just don't like meat, etc.) then they can mind their own business. As for anyone saying that not eating meat is a sin... I have no idea, I've never heard that one.

Lol, Mainard from Tool has a nice little song on Undertow for the people who get that carried away.

An interesting side note though, I don't know if this is just true for ADHD aspies, but I find that the more protein I supplement into my diet the better. As it is if I've been working out for a few months on the weights and don't eat like 3 or 4 peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches or go out for Arby's Big Montana's I end up feeling really sick and really out of it. It's like my nervous system burns through protein like a Hummer burns up gasoline.

What is a sin, anyway? I'll tell you what it is, and it's really a very simple definition. So simple that even an atheist could apply the term to his or her life:

A sin is freely chosing to do what you know is wrong.

That's it. That's the definition that I got when I was in third grade. And that's all it needs to be.

So I guess the question is whether or not it's wrong to eat plants. I can think of plenty of good arguments as to why the consumption of animals would be wrong, but plants . . . ?

Whadya mean even an atheist? There are plenty of atheists that are far more intelligent and complex than you or I. I already apply the term to my life, just not in a religous way.

Lol, if we were to think like that..pff..what then? The only non-sin would be just to starve to death rather than consume anything? Every living thing does it. Thats why when reading this thread, the only thing I could make sense of is someone trying to say its sinful not to eat meat (which on its own also makes no sense).

There are many cases of people doing what would be regarded as 'wrong' by most of us here while convinced that they were doing right or at least weren't aware that they were doing wrong. Many of the Nazis sincerely believed that Jews were subhuman and that killing them would serve a greater good for the benefit of the Aryan race. Does this mean they didn't sin? How many witches were burned by people who believed they were doing the right thing? Did Stalin think he was doing wrong?

Although Genisis suggests that the knowledege of good and evil must be had before sin can exist (Genesis 3:5), Yahweh goes on to punish Adam and Eve for their actions of eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge (Genesis 3:15 - 3:24), even though they had no conception of sin at the time of eating the fruit, so either sin is something absolute which requires no knowledge for something to be sinful, or Yahweh is just sadistic and vengeful in punishing Adam and Eve for their sinless actions. I find your definition of sin to be quite unsatisfactory, and your snipe at atheists is offensive.

They knew it was wrong.

don't eat apples or you'll go to hell!