Whats with the leftwing bent of Wrongplanet?

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Maybe the American military budget should be spent less on expensive state-of-the-art uber-technical weapons and equipment and more on .. I dunno.. basic pattern recognition training? Better value for money to be had, because then they wouldn't be wasting multi-million pound weapons systems blowing up things that dont need blowing up.. like their allies?

Just a thought...

And rightwing.. leftwing..liberal.. who cares? It would be nice if there was just a government that didnt spend all its time sh*****g on the little people.. whoever or wherever they might be.

I would like to bump into somebody someday who works hard for their money and has very little in the way of extra or disposable income as it's called and thinks it's just wonderful the government takes some of their money and passes it around while they never qualify for nothing. I haven't ment such a person yet.

What exactly is a liberal anyways ?

The welfare mooch isn't a liberal, he/she is voting for income redistribution because he/she is on the recieving end and might have a different veiw if it was the other way around, so there is nothing noble about most of those dem voters.

The government employee is also voting his/her wallet, so there is nothing noble about most of those people when they want people in office who will keep them employed and or bend over to their union if they are in one.

the guilt trip wealthy liberal sure aren't liberal when it comes down to sharing their wealth enough to notice any differance in their lifestyle, but think one peasant shouldn't get too much more than another one.

The hate the rich middle class peon isn't liberal, they hate the rich so much they would sooner their own taxes go up a little as long as the taxes are raised even more on the wealthy, so in effect will pay to see the rish SOB suffer some or at least pay to annoy them, they aren't noble just full of hate towards the rich.

Reality is not even close to 1% of the population is enough of a bleeding heart liberal to open their home to somebody or a family down on their luck or open their wallet wide enough to help out somebody to the point of having it effect their own lifestyle.

yeah exactly, glad somebody gets it

I would have thought that religion and politics would be separate.

i live in los angeles, ca. i get taxes way more than you do.

short of us both posting nearly everything about our lives, you are just guessing who's tax rate is higher and who pays more overall taxes and who gets what in return for paying.

Somebody could be happy as hell paying 40% income tax and $10,000 a year property tax if they had a 6 figure do next to nothing cake government job 35 hours a week while living in a house they got from their grandparents. They would think the system is wonderfull.

That's what the founding fathers thought too. Unfortunately our latest president is of the opinion that they were wrong and that religion should be mixed up with politics. His administration's views have resulted in scary precedents such as the "faith based initiative."

Many people are conservatives due to religious concerns. For instance a bunch of catholics vote conservative. Even though they are economically and pretty much socially aligned with liberals (catholics believe in more welfare, etc / oppose the death penalty), these catholics oppose abortion and believe this issue is so important, they might as well vote for a candidate who only shares their viewpoints on one or two political issues (abortion and possibly homosexuality).

i don't think the system is wonderful and i think there's a lot of crap to cut down on. just, i most likely differ from you in which areas i think need to be cut first.

that and i don't just play the partisan song and dance like you seem to do.


edit: and i make nowhere near six figures.

might one of these be the
pro illegal immigration platform?



this happens in California on a scale
you might be unable to comprehend



but you're happy to pay them because you see
everyday where the money goes, the familias
it helps, and the broad cultural and nationalistic
changes it promotes for, what I gather you
presume, is the best?

all i see is a bunch of stupid garbage being done and the basics like sewage and highway maintenance being ignored.

but los angeles sucks at planning. they can never think in front of their noses out here.

I hate to nitpick, but Protestants would be a better example than Catholics probably. Protestants generally support your above statements, but vote conservative, whereas Catholics are slightly more likely to vote liberal relative to Protestants. Also, 33% of Catholics call themselves conservatives vs 40% of Protestants (Source: the GSS 2006, http://www.thearda.com/Archive/Files/An ... 1246_1.asp).

As for references to U.S. military spending, sure its alot of nominal money, but relative to GDP, it is fairly small, only 4% (https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 4rank.html). Most of the US budget already goes to discretionary spending and transfer programs (i.e. Social security, Medicare).

There's not that much of a liberal bent, just a free-thinking one.

People here have open minds, and just because you want the government to keep its nose out of your business, stop legislating morality, decrease censorship, and promote freedom FROM religion does NOT mean you're a liberal. In fact, far from it.

True conservatives, by original definition, want less government interference in their lives, not this religious BS that REGULATES morality.

so income taxes aren't much of an issue than are they ?



just because I think the dems are worse than the republicans doesn't mean I support the republicans. As it stands right now I hope Obama gets elected and really isn't what he has been forced to be to get where he is. He has had no choice but to be a good team player and could be a great president the other two have proven records of being good team players, so it's not likely they will change if they get elected.

As one working man put it, he didn't leave the democrat party, they left him.

We have had a country for a few decades now that has catered to the yuppie baby boomers and screwed the blue collar working class. Obama might actually get the BITTER fact in rural america is no different than the BITTER fact in the inner city. We have had the Biff & Muffy society for decades and most of america has been left out of the warm & fuzzy life in bedroom communities where life is all about their snot nose children who must get a college degree so they don't end up like THOSE working class people Biff & Muffy have exploited and sold out to get their 4 bedroom 2 1/2 bath yuppie castle away from THOSE people, the flithy dirty working class lowlifes.

The news media goes on and on about religion & abortion as top issues in election. More likely is people are voting their wallets and for rural people they are being cleaned out to support the cities and know it. It's nothing more than a transfer of wealth from the blue collar working class outside the major cities to the low income servants of Biff & Muffy so they don't have to pay the people who clean their toilets,cook their food and in general wait on them hand and foot for chump change, bubba is fully awhere of what is going on and the news media won't dare touch the subject of the raping of the rural population and exploitation of the low income urban populations so Biff & Muffy can live the good life.

A Marxist, eh? If by the blue collar "working class" (I don't quite understand this term considering the Middle Class also has to work, even those with a college degree) you mean industrial production, that sector has been declining for quite some time, and it is for the better (its the same kinda of progress that makes us not a 85% agriculture economy). Aside from that, shouldn't one look to oneself to improve one's situation, not the government? Attempting to make and exploit class warfare may sound nice politically, but in reality it isn't such a great deal for most people. No one is really getting "screwed" or exploited (even if they are paid less and you would like to think it is), and if anything the "blue collar working class" already receive payments from other Americans in the form of Medicaid, EITC, food stamps, other welfare, and the fact that they don't really pay income taxes, but are able to call on the services those taxes provide. Class warfare in the U.S. is really quite irrational all things considered.

The bolded part is complete, utter BS. I know a several American citizens who are Muslims are they are all proud Americans and hate Islamic terrorism. How DARE you slander your fellow Americans in such a despicable way.