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18 May 2008, 7:12 pm

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watch marjoe.


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18 May 2008, 10:15 pm

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I love televangelists. They are so full of BS that it just amazes me. It always reassures me of my tendency to be non-religious.


Televangelists are charlatans, liars, thieves, manipulators, and villains. They do not represent the Christian religion. They do not represent what faith is supposed to be. They are all spooks and geeks of the worst order.


Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...



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19 May 2008, 1:44 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
bobert wrote:
I love televangelists. They are so full of BS that it just amazes me. It always reassures me of my tendency to be non-religious.


Televangelists are charlatans, liars, thieves, manipulators, and villains. They do not represent the Christian religion. They do not represent what faith is supposed to be. They are all spooks and geeks of the worst order.


Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...


Unfortunately, quite a few people are guilty on one or both counts.

Televangelists are Cthulhus.
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19 May 2008, 2:35 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...


America isn't ****ed up like that? 8O


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19 May 2008, 9:24 am

For the record, what is a Cthulthu?

What species? What evolutionary history? Prove it! :wink:



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19 May 2008, 5:02 pm

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Almost nothing makes me cringe more than Televangelists. Don't these guys make you feel sick to your stomach? They claim that they believe in god and that they have seen visions of God. Also, they claim that they can heal you if you make donations of money to them. I've been seeing this "Peter Popoff" guy late at night on infomercials and he really makes me sick to my stomach. I just read on Wikipedia that he earns $500, 000 dollars a year from donations, and he drives a 2006 Porsche convertible worth $90,000.

Check out this link at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Popoff


Actually, I watch these guys when I am in dire need of a good laugh



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19 May 2008, 9:00 pm

Quatermass wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...


America isn't ****ed up like that? 8O


No, America is far more seriously messed up in more ways than you can imagine, and it is getting worse everyday, with every news report, with every legal action, with every bit of legislation it gets worse and it will keep getting worse until only the Left can tolerate it.



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19 May 2008, 9:18 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...


America isn't ****ed up like that? 8O


No, America is far more seriously messed up in more ways than you can imagine, and it is getting worse everyday, with every news report, with every legal action, with every bit of legislation it gets worse and it will keep getting worse until only the Left can tolerate it.


I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


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19 May 2008, 10:08 pm

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ToadOfSteel wrote:
Tell me about it... I am an avid churchgoer, and I can state for the record that mainstream churches are nothing like televangelists...

If you watch a televangelist and say that the entire Christian faith must be ****ed up based on that observation, it would be like watching Fox News and saying that all of America must be ****ed up like that...


America isn't ****ed up like that? 8O


No, America is far more seriously messed up in more ways than you can imagine, and it is getting worse everyday, with every news report, with every legal action, with every bit of legislation it gets worse and it will keep getting worse until only the Left can tolerate it.


I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


Australian media probably paints an ultra-conservadox religious State ready to flood the world with intellectual darkness or some other item of damnation. America is far from that, at least what I've seen of it.



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20 May 2008, 10:01 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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America isn't ****ed up like that? 8O


No, America is far more seriously messed up in more ways than you can imagine, and it is getting worse everyday, with every news report, with every legal action, with every bit of legislation it gets worse and it will keep getting worse until only the Left can tolerate it.


I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


Australian media probably paints an ultra-conservadox religious State ready to flood the world with intellectual darkness or some other item of damnation. America is far from that, at least what I've seen of it.


I dunno, Iamnotaparakeet is exaggerating to the point of a strawman, but Canadian Media also paints America as pretty right wing. And almost every Canadian I've met who's spent a fair amount of time down there.

And the American shows that do claim that the Left is taking over everything generally have pretty wierd ideas about Canada, like we're being oppressed by free medicare and cheaper medical drugs. Cause yeah, knowing that I will be treated immediately in the case of an emergency, and not have to wait for my insurance to clear, really keeps me up at night. So I have difficulty taking these shows seriously.



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20 May 2008, 10:10 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

..with every legal action .. it gets worse and it will keep getting worse until only the Left can tolerate it.


??

Every arrest of a criminal makes things worse?



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20 May 2008, 5:16 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


Australian media probably paints an ultra-conservadox religious State ready to flood the world with intellectual darkness or some other item of damnation. America is far from that, at least what I've seen of it.


No, just as a mish-mash of left and right-wing attitudes where members of the same party will hurl overt insults at each other (Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama, I am looking at you) while nutjobs such as Fred Phelps run loose, and freedoms of individuals takes precedence over proper altruism, and religion is venerated more than science.


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20 May 2008, 5:23 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


Australian media probably paints an ultra-conservadox religious State ready to flood the world with intellectual darkness or some other item of damnation. America is far from that, at least what I've seen of it.


No, just as a mish-mash of left and right-wing attitudes where members of the same party will hurl overt insults at each other (Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama, I am looking at you) while nutjobs such as Fred Phelps run loose, and freedoms of individuals takes precedence over proper altruism, and religion is venerated more than science.


I have not a clue who Fred Phelps is. Liberty isn't what is held above altruism, money is. And science pseudonumos is venerated more than religion, particularly over Christianity.



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20 May 2008, 5:32 pm

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And science pseudonumos....

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20 May 2008, 5:33 pm

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One of the best of the worst is Jack Van Impe and his wife Rexella. I was forced to go to one of their "crusades" at the McCormick Center in Chicago when I was a kid. He has been predicting Christ's imminent return for 40 years. "He's coming back now . . . I mean, now . . . OK then, how about . . . now . . . ?

Sad thing is that they are still on television and people are still sending them money.

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That Jesus is returning soon is cause for great excitement, which is why it occasionally breeds excitability, so that Christ's soon return is sometimes predicted with more precision than the Bible actually utilizes. Jesus Himself said, "No man knoweth the day or the hour" of His return, so modern self-appointed "prophets" should take great care, and get back to reading and teaching Scripture.



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20 May 2008, 5:45 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I would have thought it would have been the Right that could tolerate this stuff....


Australian media probably paints an ultra-conservadox religious State ready to flood the world with intellectual darkness or some other item of damnation. America is far from that, at least what I've seen of it.


No, just as a mish-mash of left and right-wing attitudes where members of the same party will hurl overt insults at each other (Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama, I am looking at you) while nutjobs such as Fred Phelps run loose, and freedoms of individuals takes precedence over proper altruism, and religion is venerated more than science.


I have not a clue who Fred Phelps is. Liberty isn't what is held above altruism, money is. And science pseudonumos is venerated more than religion, particularly over Christianity.


I don't know what word you just said, unless you spelt 'pseudonymous' wrong. Look up Fred Phelps on Wikipedia, and see what is wrong with religion in America.

Sorry, I should have said 'liberty AND money is held in higher regard than altruism'.


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