Leading Historian Says U.S. ‘Empire’ To Fail

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20 Jan 2006, 2:43 am

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They may what to move here because this is where the Power and Control really is in the end. This is where the Economic Power is and they want a share of it in the end. In a matter of speaking they want there share of it in the end. The U.S. is the lone SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD. Everybody gravitates to such a Power. America is a Country of Ideals that also whats makes it Great in Economic matter of this World. I would want move hear too.

Weight I do Live here. :wink:


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20 Jan 2006, 11:06 am

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They may what to move here because this is where the Power and Control really is in the end. This is where the Economic Power is and they want a share of it in the end. In a matter of speaking they want there share of it in the end. The U.S. is the lone SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD. Everybody gravitates to such a Power. America is a Country of Ideals that also whats makes it Great in Economic matter of this World. I would want move hear too.

Weight I do Live here. :wink:


Aside from rampent grammar and spelling errors, is english your first language?
No, I strongly doubt that is the reason here. If that was so, most Americans would move to Washington DC or New York City. By the same token, Americans and most of the world and immigrants would have moved to the British Empire in the 19th Century. Do you honestly think, India loved being a colony, or part of that Empire? Its about freedom and freedom to choose or at least have a voice in that choice. Where were the mass immigrations to Russia, in the early 19th Century, or Spain in the 16th Century? Generally, from historical perspective, I have seen more the opposite to be true. Power alone does not attract or create immigration. There have been incidents of one power in a given region, and that did not create mass immigration either, like the Early U.S. History, even to the late 19th century, were fighting indian wars. They did not seem to want to immigrate either. Did China empty itself to move to the Central Mongolian lands in the 13th Century? No. Did Europe bow down and want to become part of the Mongolian super power, the largest, most populated nation and most powerful with the mightiest armies and spy networks?? Nope.

Sounds a bit like you have a misunderstanding of human nature.



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20 Jan 2006, 12:14 pm

Endersdragon wrote:
:rolls eyes: what country hasnt broken the UN charter?


Canada hasn't broken the UN charter.

And yes, in a sense US is an empire. Economic Empire.


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20 Jan 2006, 9:02 pm

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People have been immigrating to the U.S. since its beginning. There even where mass immigration to the U.S. in the late 1800s to the early 1900s, and there still immigration still going on to the U.S. That is why Ellis Island was created in 1892. You do not really know U.S. History do You.

You what to be a grammar or spelling teacher go right ahead, should I correct Your mistakes.


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22 Jan 2006, 6:01 pm

I'm more afraid of the "religuous right" in the US than I am of Iran

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/ChristianRight_AmerFascism.html

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24 Feb 2006, 1:45 am

kevv729 wrote:
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People have been immigrating to the U.S. since its beginning. There even where mass immigration to the U.S. in the late 1800s to the early 1900s, and there still immigration still going on to the U.S. That is why Ellis Island was created in 1892. You do not really know U.S. History do You.

You what to be a grammar or spelling teacher go right ahead, should I correct Your mistakes.


Umm....you just proved to me that you can not read English, or at least can not comprehend what you read.

DUH!! !

I know the US history and that it had mass immigrations, like during the Irish Potato famine in the 19th CEntury.

I never said the US did not. GEEZE!! ! READ!! ! READ!! !! READ!! !!

i was basing a hypothisis on YOUR ANALOGY that power and economy are the sole reasons for immigration, or at least that is what it appears you are saying.[/u]



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24 Feb 2006, 2:44 pm

The British Emprire lives, BARCLAYS BANK PLC of England is a major stock holder in most US Companies.

The Blue Bloods, Royal Families of Europe and the Royal families of the Mideast run the world with their cronies that are descendants of the robber barrons of America deciding which pets of the Rochefeller family get to challenge each other to be govenor, I mean President of the USA.

The USA is still a colony :lol: and does the dirty work for the mother country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones



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25 Feb 2006, 12:40 am

This thread started with an eminent British left-wing historian and his view that "America is an empire destined for failure." Now an eminent American right-wing (now ex-neocon) historian says pretty much the same - no less than Francis Fukuyama, who a few years ago wrote a silly book with a sillier title, "The End of History," which far too many people took seriously.

In an article in the Guardian < here > titled "Neoconservatism has evolved into something I can no longer support", he says

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"Now that the neoconservative moment appears to have passed, the US needs to reconceptualise its foreign policy. First, we need to demilitarise what we have been calling the global war on terrorism... But the legacy of the first-term foreign policy and its neoconservative supporters has been so polarising that it is going to be hard to have a reasoned debate about how to appropriately balance US ideals and interests. What we need are new ideas for how America is to relate to the world - ideas that retain the neoconservative belief in the universality of human rights, but without its illusions about the efficacy of US power and hegemony to bring these ends about.
I agree with him, except for the bit about "the neoconservative belief in the universality of human rights" - like for those illegally held at Guantanamo? He says it at greater length in the New York Times Magazine < here > in a piece called "After Neoconservatism". As the conservative blogger of Rightwing Nuthouse says < here > "Fukuyama takes Neoconservatives to the woodshed and delivers a beating from which they may not recover."
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