20 Sep 2008, 8:52 pm
20 Sep 2008, 11:01 pm
Fnord wrote:
Shawn William,
To keep your posts from boring the rest of us and to keep them from scrolling off the page, please just select one of the following arguments by number to support your claims, and then post the number:
To keep your posts from boring the rest of us and to keep them from scrolling off the page, please just select one of the following arguments by number to support your claims, and then post the number:
- "Galileo Fallacy" - Everybody laughed at Galileo, and he was right. Everybody laughs at me, therefore I must be right.
- "Residue Fallacy" - After all the bad data, fakes, and obvious errors are weeded out, there are still a few unexplained cases that indicate that something actually happened, and their inexplicability is proof enough of their conspiratorial origins.
- "Explanation by Default" - Science can't explain it, but I can, therefore my explanation must be right.
- "A 'Theory' is whatever I want it to be" - A theory is any body of ideas, guesses, or suspicions that require no proof or validation. Therefore, I can say whatever I want and you'd be a fool to disbelieve it.
- "Attacks on Inference and Deduction" - If we're restricted to only what we see directly, and to what we can conclude by disciplined inference and deduction from those observations, then we will never know very much about the world.
- "Be Free to Believe" - Observation by an untrained witness is much more likely to be free from restrictive facts and logic, and therefore carries more validity than anything that any scientist could prove by observation, experiment, and peer-group review.
- "Vagueness is the Root of Accuracy" - I don't have to provide any details to prove that I'm right. In fact, the fewer details I provide, the more accurate my claims.
- "Exaggeration of Uncertainty" - If science can't answer one question, then it can't answer any questions.
- "Buzzwords / Technobabble" - I know all the same words used by experts in their respective fields. That I use those words improperly without knowing their real meaning is irrelevant - they mean whatever I want them to.
- "Suppressed Evidence" - The evidence needed to prove my claims is missing, therefore it must have been redacted or suppressed, thus proving that Higher Powers are at play to keep us from knowing the truth.
- "Ridicule is the Ultimate Truth" - Since you don't believe what I tell you, this proves that you are too stupid to understand it, which in turn implies that you are also too stupid to know it when I call you stupid.
Hey Fnord, you are completely hypocritical.. you continuously "debunk" 9/11 theories, and the link you put in your signature is the lamest piece of s**t article I've ever laid my eyes upon... No evidence I've ever brought to this place has ever been more amateur looking than that 6th grader article that you probably made yourself.
And you're using false reasoning to frame me for false reasoning.. You're the lowest of the low
20 Sep 2008, 11:04 pm
20 Sep 2008, 11:06 pm
chever wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Fnord, does this list of fallacies have a reliable source or is it a matter of opinion? I mean, would it be unreasonable to question the level of veracity and accuracy about it?
Not really
Are you wearing a space suit in your photo?.. or are those bolts sticking out of your neck?
20 Sep 2008, 11:08 pm
Fnord wrote:
monty wrote:
chever wrote:
In fact, stealth bombers inject a contrail inhibiting agent into their exhaust
tHEN WE ARE REALLY SKREWD!! tEH NIEUW CHEMTRAILS INVISIBLE!!
Hmm ... invisible chemtrails that no one can see, emitted by stealth aircraft that don't show up on radar, and the only evidence that would prove this is unavailable, which implies that there is a cover-up, and such a cover-up could only be accomplished by agents of the highest levels of the New World Order, and only with Reticulian technology, so the only conclusion is that we're all going to die ...
I think the one about "Little Red Riding Hood" is much better.
I suspect Pantopia exists only in the Nether regions of your mind, for everything you just said is pure fantasy.. do they serve moonshine there?
20 Sep 2008, 11:18 pm
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Fnord wrote:
monty wrote:
chever wrote:
In fact, stealth bombers inject a contrail inhibiting agent into their exhaust
tHEN WE ARE REALLY SKREWD!! tEH NIEUW CHEMTRAILS INVISIBLE!!
Hmm ... invisible chemtrails that no one can see, emitted by stealth aircraft that don't show up on radar, and the only evidence that would prove this is unavailable, which implies that there is a cover-up, and such a cover-up could only be accomplished by agents of the highest levels of the New World Order, and only with Reticulian technology, so the only conclusion is that we're all going to die ...
I think the one about "Little Red Riding Hood" is much better.
I suspect Pantopia exists only in the Nether regions of your mind, for everything you just said is pure fantasy.. do they serve moonshine there?
ShawnWilliam, ad hominem attacks and insults DO NOT bolster your argument and are pretty much Useless at convincing your opponents who have PLENTY of reasons to be skeptical. Lest ye forget that the burden of proof rest on the person making the claim which in this case is YOU.
20 Sep 2008, 11:20 pm
ShawnWilliam wrote:
chever wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Fnord, does this list of fallacies have a reliable source or is it a matter of opinion? I mean, would it be unreasonable to question the level of veracity and accuracy about it?
Not really
Are you wearing a space suit in your photo?.. or are those bolts sticking out of your neck?
Those are wireless headphones, fuckchop
20 Sep 2008, 11:27 pm
Haliphron wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Fnord wrote:
monty wrote:
chever wrote:
In fact, stealth bombers inject a contrail inhibiting agent into their exhaust
tHEN WE ARE REALLY SKREWD!! tEH NIEUW CHEMTRAILS INVISIBLE!!
Hmm ... invisible chemtrails that no one can see, emitted by stealth aircraft that don't show up on radar, and the only evidence that would prove this is unavailable, which implies that there is a cover-up, and such a cover-up could only be accomplished by agents of the highest levels of the New World Order, and only with Reticulian technology, so the only conclusion is that we're all going to die ...
I think the one about "Little Red Riding Hood" is much better.
I suspect Pantopia exists only in the Nether regions of your mind, for everything you just said is pure fantasy.. do they serve moonshine there?
ShawnWilliam, ad hominem attacks and insults DO NOT bolster your argument and are pretty much Useless at convincing your opponents who have PLENTY of reasons to be skeptical. Lest ye forget that the burden of proof rest on the person making the claim which in this case is YOU.
Moral to the story!.. congratulations!.. you got it! thats all there is to it!.. If I don't bring the proof within 10 minutes, It is considered good manners to tear apart the person bringing in the video... such a harmful video it is to watch!
20 Sep 2008, 11:27 pm
chever wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
chever wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Fnord, does this list of fallacies have a reliable source or is it a matter of opinion? I mean, would it be unreasonable to question the level of veracity and accuracy about it?
Not really
Are you wearing a space suit in your photo?.. or are those bolts sticking out of your neck?
Those are wireless headphones, fuckchop
I think they're bolts..
20 Sep 2008, 11:35 pm
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21 Sep 2008, 12:05 am
Quote:
"Your mother should have swallowed."
There you go; next one is going to cost you.
*farts*
oh, that was much funnierQuote:
You don't have a single original idea or, for that matter, a single good idea. Everything you post here is cribbed from some conspiracy website. Today I was asked to model a situation at a chemical processing plant with only one clue. I figured it out on my own. You have no idea how much creativity is involved in math and programming.
NOT true, I do not get my thoughts from crazy conspiracy theory sites!!.. my thoughts are a collection from many various sources over a long span of time, and I've accumulated it into a semi-consisted theory on the government, aliens, and history... there is a lot, but it all connects together in crucial places.
And I'm not disputing your abilities in math. Hell, I'll bet you're even good at math.. but don't discriminate someone for thinking outside of your little pandoras box of numbers.. Your field of knowledge does not include everything under the sun (assuming you even get any), and you are not as smart as you think you are.. Ego's can be misleading, and I'll bet you were given a nice big pat on the back after you solved the riddle of the day. But math does not encapsulate life.. your life is very small and pointless..
21 Sep 2008, 12:21 am
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Quote:
"Your mother should have swallowed."
There you go; next one is going to cost you.
*farts*
oh, that was much funnierYou make more sense when you fart, too.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
NOT true, I do not get my thoughts from crazy conspiracy theory sites!!.. my thoughts are a collection from many various sources over a long span of time, and I've accumulated it into a semi-consisted theory on the government, aliens, and history... there is a lot, but it all connects together in crucial places.
LOL
ShawnWilliam wrote:
And I'm not disputing your abilities in math. Hell, I'll bet you're even good at math.. but don't discriminate someone for thinking outside of your little pandoras box of numbers.
You don't know who Pandora is, do you?
Mythology is another field where I edge you out easily.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Your field of knowledge does not include everything under the sun (assuming you even get any),
On weekends, I'll often walk 10km to and from the university library. Since I am a mick / kraut douchebag (guess you figured that out), I have a bit of a reddish tan on my arms and face at the moment, which kind of sucks.
I also used to be a cross country runner.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
and you are not as smart as you think you are..
I would say I have a pretty realistic view of my abilities. Especially considering that the thought "I'll never be as good as John von Neumann" crosses my mind every few seconds.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
But math does not encapsulate life.. your life is very small and pointless..
How so?
21 Sep 2008, 12:26 am
chever wrote:
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Quote:
"Your mother should have swallowed."
There you go; next one is going to cost you.
*farts*
oh, that was much funnierYou make more sense when you fart, too.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
NOT true, I do not get my thoughts from crazy conspiracy theory sites!!.. my thoughts are a collection from many various sources over a long span of time, and I've accumulated it into a semi-consisted theory on the government, aliens, and history... there is a lot, but it all connects together in crucial places.
LOL
ShawnWilliam wrote:
And I'm not disputing your abilities in math. Hell, I'll bet you're even good at math.. but don't discriminate someone for thinking outside of your little pandoras box of numbers.
You don't know who Pandora is, do you?
Mythology is another field where I edge you out easily.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
Your field of knowledge does not include everything under the sun (assuming you even get any),
On weekends, I'll often walk 10km to and from the university library. Since I am a mick / kraut douchebag (guess you figured that out), I have a bit of a reddish tan on my arms and face at the moment, which kind of sucks.
I also used to be a cross country runner.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
and you are not as smart as you think you are..
I would say I have a pretty realistic view of my abilities. Especially considering that the thought "I'll never be as good as John von Neumann" crosses my mind every few seconds.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
But math does not encapsulate life.. your life is very small and pointless..
How so?
You're a liar
You make s**t up..
You can't intimidate me you worthless sack of s**t.
21 Sep 2008, 12:33 am
