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9/11 was caused by...
al-Qaeda 59%  59%  [ 30 ]
The United States Federal government 25%  25%  [ 13 ]
the National Hotdog Accosiation 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
other (specify) 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
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16 Oct 2008, 5:40 pm

What are these "secular religions" of which you speak?



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16 Oct 2008, 5:44 pm

slowmutant wrote:
What are these "secular religions" of which you speak?


Pretty much people who feel spiritual needs but have nothing else to project it into aside from politics and the desires for radical movement, mostly noted by rather than asking 'what works' they try to smash all of that down and forget about it for the sake of their own utopias.

Ultimately trying to assert make-believe over reality.



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16 Oct 2008, 9:41 pm

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Yes, conspiracy theories are more interesting than the truth.


Greenblue.... I thought you said that "all truth is subjective" and "evidence doesn't equal proof". Once again your contradicting yourself, your denying a theory (or "theory") and stating what you believe to be an objective truth. But just a few days ago you said that there was no objective truth. Man up, address this.

Is it because my proof didn't fit into your comfortable illusion? It didn't fit your comfortable self deception? Be honest for once in your life. That's it isn't it? Your addicted to propaganda. If "truth is subjective", why are you asserting what you believe to be an objective truth?



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16 Oct 2008, 10:25 pm

Yes, I believe it does make sense your observation about my quote, mostly when it comes to defending your position in the other thread, and well, I didn't exactly stated what is that "truth", I really didn't, although it would be obviously asumed to be referred to the 'oficial truth' ;)

Anyway, about that, even though the oficial story, any oficial story can be questioned, if it isn't entirely truth, would it be necessarily entirely false? I do actually have doubts about some aspects of 911 that has been oficially stated, nevertheless I cannot claim anything without evidence, not to mention the possibility of being wrong, so I just stay with the doubt.

There are people who seem to get annoyed, and very it seems, by conspiracy theories about 911, and some here seem to want this thread to "die", I can't help to be amused somehow, though perhaps it is a bad thing from my part :P and I honestly think that these conspiracy theories are more interesting than the oficial story, but I won't believe in them.

About the term conspiracy theory and conspiracy theorist, I would have to agree that it becomes a degoratory label and even some sort of social stigma for those who believe in alternative explanations or perhaps for just skepticism, I give you that.


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17 Oct 2008, 4:57 am

I know the daughter of the pilot of the plane that crashed into the south tower. I went to school with her.

When I say pilot I am refering to the trained professional who was flying passengers to their destination, not the terrorists that crashed the plane.



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17 Oct 2008, 9:29 pm

It's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a brain-washed NWO sheep that aliens did it.


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18 Oct 2008, 3:48 pm

Government.

Watch Loose Change Final Cut (Google it, you can watch the whole thing on Google Video).



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18 Oct 2008, 3:51 pm

twoshots wrote:
It's pretty obvious to anyone who isn't a brain-washed NWO sheep that aliens did it.

And that's the only truth!


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18 Oct 2008, 3:56 pm

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Government.

Watch Loose Change Final Cut (Google it, you can watch the whole thing on Google Video).

Uncensored Director's Cut, with several minutes of never seen banned footage, plus several deleted alternative scenes.


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