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09 Dec 2008, 11:43 am

What do you suggest? Doggy toilets at home? (Just like in the film Bruce Almighty)

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09 Dec 2008, 11:43 am

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Why don't they just pee behind a bush or something hiding them like women do? :wink:

My point is that if dogs can freely pee in public the act of pissing is not anything unacceptable. So I suppose human wast disposal organs are what frightens people. I wonder how sensitive people sleep easily at night if those horrible things are attached below.

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09 Dec 2008, 11:54 am

Yes but people are creepy.

Dogs go by innocent instinct. Many people purposely expose themselves to people for certain sexual gratifications.

Does this mean peeing in public makes you a pervert? No but other people could use it for that purpose as an excuse. Sort of like guys who jack off in public because it's a "necessity."

But we would then have to argue if it would be OK for adults to walk around with certain body parts hanging out. Also, people are a little more inclined to deciding than dogs are called free will of thinking.

Now that doesn't mean I don't relate. I've had to hide from the law but by doing this I was discreet and used my head by hiding if I couldn't find a place to relieve myself.

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09 Dec 2008, 12:05 pm

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OK. I'll agree people are creepy and dogs are realistic thinkers except when they see a cat.

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09 Dec 2008, 12:17 pm

We used to have a dog who must have thought she could run down squirrels, despite her weighing 100 lbs. You call that realistic thinking?

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09 Dec 2008, 12:33 pm

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We used to have a dog who must have thought she could run down squirrels, despite her weighing 100 lbs. You call that realistic thinking?

Some dogs are optimists.

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09 Dec 2008, 12:48 pm

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We used to have a dog who must have thought she could run down squirrels, despite her weighing 100 lbs. You call that realistic thinking?

I`m curious, of what breed was she?

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09 Dec 2008, 1:46 pm

Puppet wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

We used to have a dog who must have thought she could run down squirrels, despite her weighing 100 lbs. You call that realistic thinking?

I`m curious, of what breed was she?

She was a purebred Yellow Lab.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:00 pm

Sand wrote:

In all the major cities in Europe and the USA it's a real crisis for a guy to find a place in public to pee when it becomes extremely necessary. It's criminal to do it in public. But in the same cities I see dogs peeing on every tree. How come dogs have more rights than humans?

An interesting point.

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Sand, I'm not sure if you are just being silly or if you are trying to make light of animal rights issues. You do realize that approximately 4 million dogs are put down in shelters each year?

Sure. And millions of people are starving in Africa and hundreds of thousands of people have been killed in Iraq but what has that to do with pissing on trees?

Well said.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:10 pm

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

That is a very common sentiment.

That's encouraging

You find it encouraging to think of God as a perverse SOB?

I don't.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:15 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

That is a very common sentiment.

That's encouraging

You find it encouraging to think of God as a perverse SOB?

I don't.

No, neither do I. I think of God as non-existent. It's much kinder that way. But if he did exist and behaved in the way the Bible tells, well ... I mean. after all, look what He did to Abraham and Job. You must admit he had a pretty mean streak. If he exists.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:26 pm

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

That is a very common sentiment.

That's encouraging

You find it encouraging to think of God as a perverse SOB?

I don't.

No, neither do I. I think of God as non-existent. It's much kinder that way. But if he did exist and behaved in the way the Bible tells, well ...

I wonder how accurately the Bible portays God. To what degree was God anthropomorphized and given the pettiness of human beings within the pages of what eventually became the Good Book? That bit about favouring one tribe of humans over all others (Israel), fighting the enemies of that tribe and showing preference, favouritism ... I can't get my mind around that. Nor do I understand the Book of Job.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:35 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

slowmutant wrote:

That is a very common sentiment.

That's encouraging

You find it encouraging to think of God as a perverse SOB?

I don't.

No, neither do I. I think of God as non-existent. It's much kinder that way. But if he did exist and behaved in the way the Bible tells, well ...

Well, it makes sense if you think of God as something invented by a bunch of pretty fierce people. But what the hell. Let's throw out the Bible except as a great source of myth and poetry. Maybe God even would approve of me pissing on trees.

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09 Dec 2008, 2:40 pm

Sand wrote:

I think the plants might! :lol:

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