Is smoking a form of suicide?

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How about the fact that it actually does work as an appetite suppressant?

It amuses me that so many people accept one set of health propaganda, but discard another so easily. Medical science ACTIVELY PROMOTED smoking for years. We all believed it. Now Medical science demonizes it daily.. and we all believe it.

I'm not saying i believe smoking is good for you, I just find it amusing how people act when told by "science" what they should or should not be doing. Also, it repeatedly amuses me how small-minded fools decide they know all about smoking and its causes and effects when they do not smoke....

That depends on the form of the stupidity. If the stupidity does not affect reproductive fitness then it makes no difference from an evolutionary p.o.v.. The fitness that natural selection works on is reproductive fitness.

Let me turn this around. Suppose there was a mutation that caused the person having it to have a 200 IQ. Suppose further this mutation causes total sterility. If so this mutation could not breed true and would get washed out of the overall genome pattern of the species.

ruveyn

The question I raised had nothing to do with evolution although it might have evolutionary effects. It concerned merely survival of the individual.

Causing your own death doesn't not mean you committed suicide.

In reality, anyone who died by accident caused their own death if you really think about it. Of course they didn't realize that they shouldn't of left for work on time that day until it was too late. And then sometimes people put themselves in danger, possibly so much danger that their survival chance is effectively zero, and yet didn't commit suicide. This is because they were acting to protect someone else, not kill themselves.

As long as it's not done with the intent of killing yourself, it cannot be considered suicide. If that was the case then every single soldier on the planet would be considered suicidal, since in war you run the risk of getting killed much faster than smoking.

Smoking is correlated with lung cancer.
It does not cause lung cancer.

Perhaps having certain genes with addition of smoking induces cancer, I don't know.

What I do know is that smoking helps treat short-term anxiety and there are thousands of smokers who are self-medicating themselves without knowing it.

I'm that guy that says, I just need one for stress.

I only found out I have HF AS a week ago and I had created this hypothesis many months ago before I had ever heard of such a syndrome.

I observed that I rarely smoked while being by myself.

I get an inch every so often when I am doing a variety of things.
-Homework
-Playing video games
-Driving

And the environments in which I really start puffing away!
-Social areas unless I'm drunk and/or at a bar medicated with Cannabis.
This of course happens when I'm just getting drained applying psychological logic to what NTs just perceive by instinct.
I can lay out all the options but the same things that bug NTs bug me, they just aren't bug because they aren't able to self-actualize. Now I started learning psychology in high school, but I mean, none of my class mates understood anything. The test simply another memorize/forget chore, but I actually understood it! Whatever my teacher did uniquely it clicked with me.

Ok, to my point..

Tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, LSD, whatever.. any drug are tools for man kind to use.

Truth be told, it seems most people are stupid because they've never tried in contrast to "drugs make you dumb."

The science speaks for itself, but it is all too often ignored.

The Drug War is failure in many other aspects and when it fails, a new era of self-medication will take over the Western Society. We'll have research to make progress, but for the most part..we're correcting an error we've made.
I self-medicate myself and I believe society does as well whether they know it or not. We do have addiction, but we don't realize that they are addicted to anything. Take away the drugs and they get addicted to something else.

Actually smoking is merely the justifiable revenge of the American Indians on the culture that destroyed their way of life. It has killed far more smokers than the Europeans have killed Indians.

Smoking is a form of stupidity. This from an ex-smoker: I stopped in 1968 after developing a two pack a day habit.

ruveyn

Smoking is not a form of stupidity. Everybody dies. Some would rather have a little more fun and die sooner than later. Doesn't make them stupid. Many of the smartest people were/are smokers.

You all act like the only purpose in life is to make it last as long as possible. If you really think that, I feel very sorry for you.

Smoking is not a form of stupidity. Everybody dies. Some would rather have a little more fun and die sooner than later. Doesn't make them stupid. Many of the smartest people were/are smokers.

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I suggest you meet up with someone suffering from emphisima. Struggling for every breath. Unable to get up from a chair without becoming winded. You think this is fun? You are either as dumb as a stone wall or too young to know anything important. Smoking is NOT fun. It is a very unhealthy habit. Walking is fun, climbing a mountain is fun, flying a plane is fun. Smoking is NOT fun

ruveyn

I could have sworn I heard somewhere that smoking actually makes you smarter in the short term. Pretty sure it makes you dumber in the long term though.

It also is used by schizotypals for self medication, interestingly enough.

I suggest you meet up with someone suffering from emphisima. Struggling for every breath. Unable to get up from a chair without becoming winded. You think this is fun? You are either as dumb as a stone wall or too young to know anything important. Smoking is NOT fun. It is a very unhealthy habit. Walking is fun, climbing a mountain is fun, flying a plane is fun. Smoking is NOT fun

Eating cakes, doing drugs, getting drunk... all fun, all unhealthy. Climbing a mountain is dangerous, as is flying planes... and plenty of people die smoking even as they die of smoking.

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