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28 Mar 2009, 11:26 pm

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I say we need to bomb Ontario until they free Québec.
Vive le Québec libre! :wtg:


good luck with that....quebec wouldn't last 2 weeks on their own....what would they base their economy on, what resources? poutine and tourtière?

it makes me sad how much hatred there is in quebec for the rest of canada (anglophones).....we don't feel that way about them, and we don't understand why they hate us so much. i don't even think the québecois even know why they hate us anymore, if they ever did. i think they just need someone to hate and we're the closest candidates.



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28 Mar 2009, 11:28 pm

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Canadians are like our little brothers and sisters, the nice ones. England is our parent, and we both live next door to each other. I only say little because we are technically bigger than you. Sociology/historically, the case could be made that the US and Canada are siblings.


when you say "bigger", are you talking land? because if you are, i hate to break it to you but canada is the second largest country in the world...the first is russia, not the US.

The US de facto ownz the whole wrld n00b


is this supposed to make sense? i can't even tell what language it's in....if you want to participate in the discussion you might want to try being a little more coherent.



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29 Mar 2009, 12:07 am

starvingartist wrote:
twoshots wrote:
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Canadians are like our little brothers and sisters, the nice ones. England is our parent, and we both live next door to each other. I only say little because we are technically bigger than you. Sociology/historically, the case could be made that the US and Canada are siblings.


when you say "bigger", are you talking land? because if you are, i hate to break it to you but canada is the second largest country in the world...the first is russia, not the US.

The US de facto ownz the whole wrld n00b


is this supposed to make sense? i can't even tell what language it's in....if you want to participate in the discussion you might want to try being a little more coherent.

It means "the US de facto owns the whole world, newbie".
Hey, don't shoot the messenger.


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29 Mar 2009, 12:31 am

starvingartist wrote:
twoshots wrote:
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Canadians are like our little brothers and sisters, the nice ones. England is our parent, and we both live next door to each other. I only say little because we are technically bigger than you. Sociology/historically, the case could be made that the US and Canada are siblings.


when you say "bigger", are you talking land? because if you are, i hate to break it to you but canada is the second largest country in the world...the first is russia, not the US.

The US de facto ownz the whole wrld n00b


is this supposed to make sense? i can't even tell what language it's in....if you want to participate in the discussion you might want to try being a little more coherent.

It's in "leet".

But I don't think it will be accurate for long, considering that China owns an ever increasing portion of the US.


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29 Mar 2009, 1:17 am

starvingartist wrote:
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I say we need to bomb Ontario until they free Québec.
Vive le Québec libre! :wtg:


good luck with that....quebec wouldn't last 2 weeks on their own....what would they base their economy on, what resources? poutine and tourtière?

it makes me sad how much hatred there is in quebec for the rest of canada (anglophones).....we don't feel that way about them, and we don't understand why they hate us so much. i don't even think the québecois even know why they hate us anymore, if they ever did. i think they just need someone to hate and we're the closest candidates.

Hey hey, you forgot maple syrup (biggest producer in the world)!
I think the Québecois mostly hate the Anglophones, because they see them as a threat to their language/culture. No, I'm not from Québec, but yes I am very biased. My great-grandparents migrated to the US from there. My ancestors helped found Cap-de-la-Madeleine (which today is part of Trois-Rivières) waaay back in the 17th century.
They say that the independence movement isn't that strong, but when I used to play WoW I talked to a lot of Québecois. EVERY one of them I met was a Bloc Québecois voter. Haha... Just say "Vive le Québec libre!" to them and they'll think you're alright.



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29 Mar 2009, 1:29 am

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I have never known any American who has any sort of hostility toward Canada.


Sometimes nations which are very close together and speak each other languages can be not "hostile", but also not extreme friendly: Each nation knows the other to well to love it. And to use the metaphor of a family have a common parent.

A very nice example is currently to see between Switzerland and Germany:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... er=germany

http://www.zimbio.com/Peer+Steinbrueck/ ... Nazi+jibes

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Both nations have a lot in common, not only the language, but also a strong federalism, a political system favouring consensus, both are off-springs of the Holy Roman Empire, both were in their current borders formed in years between 1795 and 1815, etc.

It is bit like in a family: You are too close together to escape each other, but also you know each other too well to love each other.



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29 Mar 2009, 2:14 am

Whereever did you get that strange idea that Americans think?



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29 Mar 2009, 3:47 am

Hmm, perhaps I should add the inability to detect facetiousness to my list of Canadian stereotypes. Seriously, this is about on the same level as taking Jay Leno's opening monologues as policy statements of American attitudes, even if we did have a unified opinion on something a comedy show would not be the place to find it.

It is funny that people in other countries seem to spend so much time worrying about what Americans think of them though, considering the amount of flack we get as a people our opinion seems to be awfully important to a lot of foreigners. I (obviously) could care less about rest if the world's opinions about us, what does annoy me is the hypocrisy that says that it's okay to generalize and stereotype Americans, but god forbid you mention Crocodile Dundee to an Aussie, or forget to qualify when talking about Islamic terrorism, then the PC police are on you like white on rice. People either need to get less touchy about their closet nationalism, or recognize that if they're going to generalize about Americans, than Americans are going to generalize about them, and if they're Canadians, that means pointing out their utter irrelevance as far as the rest of the world is concerned.


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29 Mar 2009, 3:53 am

Sand wrote:
Whereever did you get that strange idea that Americans think?


I do. Nineteen hours a day and I can't turn it off. I can only manage five hours of sleep a night. And I am as American as the New York Yankees.

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29 Mar 2009, 3:56 am

Dussel wrote:

It is bit like in a family: You are too close together to escape each other, but also you know each other too well to love each other.


Canada is the "kinder, gentler" America that the Elder George Bush sometimes spoke of. Canada is what we would be if we stopped trying fool ourselves in believing we are a capitalist nation.

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29 Mar 2009, 3:57 am

ruveyn wrote:
Sand wrote:
Whereever did you get that strange idea that Americans think?


I do. Nineteen hours a day and I can't turn it off. I can only manage five hours of sleep a night. And I am as American as the New York Yankees.

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29 Mar 2009, 11:57 am

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Hmm, perhaps I should add the inability to detect facetiousness to my list of Canadian stereotypes. Seriously, this is about on the same level as taking Jay Leno's opening monologues as policy statements of American attitudes, even if we did have a unified opinion on something a comedy show would not be the place to find it.

It is funny that people in other countries seem to spend so much time worrying about what Americans think of them though, considering the amount of flack we get as a people our opinion seems to be awfully important to a lot of foreigners. I (obviously) could care less about rest if the world's opinions about us, what does annoy me is the hypocrisy that says that it's okay to generalize and stereotype Americans, but god forbid you mention Crocodile Dundee to an Aussie, or forget to qualify when talking about Islamic terrorism, then the PC police are on you like white on rice. People either need to get less touchy about their closet nationalism, or recognize that if they're going to generalize about Americans, than Americans are going to generalize about them, and if they're Canadians, that means pointing out their utter irrelevance as far as the rest of the world is concerned.


if "irrelevance" translates to "we don't have people who hate us so much they are willing to fly planes into our skyscrapers", then i'm happy to be irrelevant.



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29 Mar 2009, 12:27 pm

starvingartist wrote:
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Hmm, perhaps I should add the inability to detect facetiousness to my list of Canadian stereotypes. Seriously, this is about on the same level as taking Jay Leno's opening monologues as policy statements of American attitudes, even if we did have a unified opinion on something a comedy show would not be the place to find it.

It is funny that people in other countries seem to spend so much time worrying about what Americans think of them though, considering the amount of flack we get as a people our opinion seems to be awfully important to a lot of foreigners. I (obviously) could care less about rest if the world's opinions about us, what does annoy me is the hypocrisy that says that it's okay to generalize and stereotype Americans, but god forbid you mention Crocodile Dundee to an Aussie, or forget to qualify when talking about Islamic terrorism, then the PC police are on you like white on rice. People either need to get less touchy about their closet nationalism, or recognize that if they're going to generalize about Americans, than Americans are going to generalize about them, and if they're Canadians, that means pointing out their utter irrelevance as far as the rest of the world is concerned.


if "irrelevance" translates to "we don't have people who hate us so much they are willing to fly planes into our skyscrapers", then i'm happy to be irrelevant.



As a westerner, they hate you too. They just happen to hate us more.



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29 Mar 2009, 12:28 pm

The media and the Governmental representation is out oftunewith the general population here in the States.

The media is out of touch, they like to skew the facts, spew their agenda by not representing the stories clear but will slander one person they do not like and twist hings to make someone else look better.

The governemnt... follow the money trail and you will really see it more like a frat house with factions vying for taxpayer money to launder into their private intersts or interests of their friends...



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29 Mar 2009, 12:43 pm

I'm a Canadian and the "invade Canada" stuff struck me as being obviously a joke. It's enlightening to see some right-wing humour, though admittedly I don't find it very funny.

And don't paint all Quebecers with the same brush. There are plenty of people in the province who don't support separation, and don't mind the rest of Canada. In fact there was a referendum on it, twice, and both times it was defeated. The last time was in 1995. Admittedly it was very close, but the separatist movement does not strike me as being as strong now as it was then.



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29 Mar 2009, 2:55 pm

Just to add to the fun, in some restaurants the term "Canadians" is code for "black people", the mortal foe of waiters and delivery drivers everywhere. If the wrong people heard a waiter complaining to the host about the huge ghetto contingent just seated in their section, harsh words or a lawsuit could follow, where as no one would think twice when they hear the same conversation about "Canadians". In delivery driver parlance, "the ghetto" becomes "Saskatchewan", as in "man, why do I have to go out to Saskatchewan to deliver $12.95 worth of food to some damn Canadians who'll give me $13.00 and tell me to 'keep the change'?". Ironically, as far as I know actual Canadians tip just fine, it's just that they're so innocuous that they got picked as a code word that the customers wouldn't pick up on (till I just spilled the beans, of course...).


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