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Scoots5012
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03 Nov 2004, 4:35 pm

Bush won, only becasue the democratic party is getting to extreme to suit the tastes of most people here in the country.

I honestly thought last night that we were going to have a tie in the elecotral college since at that time, kerry was ahead in New Mexico, Nevada, and Iowa. And now it turns out that bush has won those three states.

Anyways, I see national mental health screening as hidden plan to put people like us into institutions en-mass so that our genes, behavior, and oddities won't be bothersome to the NT population.

Let's face it, the health care industry, and now the government has declared war on us.

One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest anyone?


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03 Nov 2004, 4:47 pm

So its four more years of President Moron.... :roll:

Heaven help us all. I have never been so relieved not to live in America. It seemed incomprehensible from this side of the Atlantic that Americans would elect this dangerous idiot again, but it still happened apparently. I am totally confused. :(

You have my deepest sympathy.

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03 Nov 2004, 4:55 pm

Dang! I knew Bush had rigged that election! But no go trying to say anything about it, or he'll have his private lawyers sue the s*** out of you.

As for the republicans trying to wage war on us, i ain't going to no mental institution w/o a fight. if anyone tries to take me away to Bedlam just because im smarter than the whole freakin' government put together, we'll see how good they are with their fencing skills (and i'm not kidding; i have a sword and im not afraid to use it.)

As for that stupid Patriot Act, i hope it is burned by the Supreme Court because it defies the whole freakin' Constitution. Oh wait, i forgot; all the SC Justices are in Bush's pocket! :x

I don't hate the country, i just hate its leader.

And, if anything mentioned in the forum about the elephants (*ahem* i mean republicans) trying to deem us Mentally Ill comes true, i swear i'm gonna move to Japan.


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03 Nov 2004, 5:31 pm

Me, I'm absolutely gutted! You can fool most of the people most of the time? Hey Lucas, what say we campaign for the axis of evil? Compared to Bush Quadafi is sane (even when they get his medication wrong!) and Kim ill whatsit is at least understandable.



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03 Nov 2004, 5:42 pm

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Do you want to know how it will get worse for us?

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"The New Freedom Initiative is a plan to screen the entire U.S. population for mental illness and to provide a cradle-to-grave continuum of services for those identified as either mentally ill or at risk of becoming so.


Bush hedging his bets? How else do you define someone who thinks that killing a peaceful foreinger (who has brothers, uncles, cousins, nephews...) will protect America from terrorism, other than as "mentally ill"?



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03 Nov 2004, 5:58 pm

I am absolutely shocked Bush won.

Yesterday i watched this documentary about FoxNews. Pure propaganda. Spreading fear :? 8O



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03 Nov 2004, 6:41 pm

Scoots5012 wrote:
Anyways, I see national mental health screening as hidden plan to put people like us into institutions en-mass so that our genes, behavior, and oddities won't be bothersome to the NT population.

Can someone direct me to the information relevant to this subject? Thank you!



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03 Nov 2004, 8:22 pm

I'm absolutely shocked and very angry by the re-election of the lunatic George W. Bush. I'm in agreement with others, it's an extremely sad day for the whole world!! ! 8O :twisted:

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04 Nov 2004, 1:38 am

I'm not happy that Bush was relected, however, in reference to the mental health screening thing - if, like that article says, there is already a similar plan in place in Texas we have very little to worry about as I've lived in Texas all my life and never had any problems with the authorities and I'm triple diagnosed . . .

However, I agree that none of that is the goverments business . . .



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04 Nov 2004, 4:47 pm

Ahh... those Democraps always try to talk to each group about how the Republicans (ooh! scary!) are conspiring against them.

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if, like that article says, there is already a similar plan in place in Texas we have very little to worry about as I've lived in Texas all my life and never had any problems with the authorities

That's it. Federal stuff almost never trickles down to the common person. It probably would NOT affect us.


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For anyone with even a modicum of history knowledge, this smacks eerily similar to Joseph Stalin's "psychiatric hospitals" in the former Soviet Union. This has also been a favored tactic of Chinese Communists. Under those regimes, anyone not agreeing with the political despots in power were determined to be "mentally ill" and sent off to "hospitals" for "treatment."




I used to live in 'Red' China. We lived right next to a bunch of official Communist buildings in Beijing. Nobody we knew had ever had any problems with the government. The only thing bad about Communism is that people are poor as dirt. That's why American capitalism and democracy rocks. It makes people rich.
Also, people in most of Asia do not care who has what. There's just normal people, 'slow' people, and 'nutty' people. PROZAC use is not prevalent there as it is here.




[/quote]Phillips also quotes Rockwell as noting that one pharmaceutical company that is set to reap a potential financial windfall from the Bush universal mental health screening plan is the Eli Lilly Company by saying, "Eli Lilly has multiple ties to the Bush administration. George Bush, Sr., was a member of Lilly's board of directors. Lilly made $1.6 million in political contributions in 2000, 82 percent of which went to George W. Bush and the Republican Party.
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I know people who work for Lilly. There IS NO conspiracy.


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How many people here are willing to tell others that they have Aspergers syndrome?

Besides, there are many Aspergers or Autism cases where people have a higher intelligence then others. I heard many republicans make the statement that we are less then others because of Survival of the fittest


I am extremely open about being Autistic. If somebody calls someone a 'ret*d' (which I believe is a slur) then I'm like, you know that I'm Autistic and offended by that statement. It's like our N word. I also stand up for other Autistic people.

Survival of the fittest does NOT say that Autistic people are any worse than others. For example: Some stupidass NT kids use crack cocaine to be 'cool'. NT Crack users generally get addicted. Many women crack users do prostitution to get more crack. Some crackheads, in their drug-addled frenzy, forget the condom. Then they have a kid. Some crackheads have 25 kids. They start sucking taxpayer dollars (remember, there's a welfare bonus for each kid) and sit at home all day, getting the kids to do slave-like labor for them, beat their kids, and their kids may get stuck in the crack/poverty cycle and have more kids. Do these people deserve to get a welfare check every week to buy crack? No, their kids should be placed in better homes and they should be forced to go to work. And their crack supply should be burned. That's it. They should also be given the opportunity to get Depo and vasectomy at a reduced price. Read 'Push' by Sapphire if you want to learn about the horrible conditions in which some kids are growing up.

Most Republicans don't even believe in it because a lot of Republicans are very religious and don't believe in evolution.
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Anyways, I see national mental health screening as hidden plan to put people like us into institutions en-mass so that our genes, behavior, and oddities won't be bothersome to the NT population.


No... it's a hidden plan to prevent psychopaths, neonazis and pedophiles from harming other people.



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04 Nov 2004, 5:13 pm

TaliDaRadical wrote:
Survival of the fittest does NOT say that Autistic people are any worse than others. For example: Some stupidass NT kids use crack cocaine to be 'cool'. NT Crack users generally get addicted. Many women crack users do prostitution to get more crack. Some crackheads, in their drug-addled frenzy, forget the condom. Then they have a kid. Some crackheads have 25 kids. They start sucking taxpayer dollars (remember, there's a welfare bonus for each kid) and sit at home all day, getting the kids to do slave-like labor for them, beat their kids, and their kids may get stuck in the crack/poverty cycle and have more kids. Do these people deserve to get a welfare check every week to buy crack? No, their kids should be placed in better homes and they should be forced to go to work. And their crack supply should be burned. That's it. They should also be given the opportunity to get Depo and vasectomy at a reduced price. Read 'Push' by Sapphire if you want to learn about the horrible conditions in which some kids are growing up.


Wow, you sound radical, all right: radically far right. It's a stereotype that welfare consumers are by and large drug addicts without a whim of personal responsibility for their own lives. Don't believe the Republican propaganda.

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Most Republicans don't even believe in it because a lot of Republicans are very religious and don't believe in evolution.
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Anyways, I see national mental health screening as hidden plan to put people like us into institutions en-mass so that our genes, behavior, and oddities won't be bothersome to the NT population.


No... it's a hidden plan to prevent psychopaths, neonazis and pedophiles from harming other people.


That sounds rather intrusive. Anyway, the reason why psychopaths are so successful is because they can cloak their disorder; I don't think a national mental health screening program is going to pick up all the bad guys and keep them away from us. Neonazis have some pretty horrible politics; but, in the United States, even they are afforded the right to their opinions, even though they are quite wacky.



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04 Nov 2004, 5:22 pm

I don't believe that all welfare users are drug abusers. Some folks really need welfare, like my friend. But the ones who are should be given a hand up instead of a hand out.
Remember: we have a president every 4 years. I mean, I like Bush's stance on terrorism. But if you folks don't like Bush then we are definitely gonna get a new president in 4 years. 4 years is a short time. Nobody can implement such a huge program in a short time. If you can't be with the prez you love, love the prez you're with, aight?



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04 Nov 2004, 6:55 pm

Wonderful, Britain will fall under the power of a united federal Europe run by Trotskyists because of Bush. I find it hard to agree to disagree with people that are by ideology selfish and sociopathic.

America has been given a lot of lee-way since Bush took power without America returning any courtesy. I am not optomistic about things improving at all.



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04 Nov 2004, 7:18 pm

Scoots5012 wrote:
Let's face it, the health care industry, and now the government has declared war on us.


So true Scoots, but by what measure do you find democrats extreme? Liberalism and extremeism are actually incompatible!



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26 Jan 2005, 4:43 pm

Things that pushed a former Democrat away from Democrats.

1. Clintons lack of timely aide to victims and potential victims of Milosovich's "ethnic cleansing" tactics reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

2. Clintons total lack of respect, adherence to, and upholdment of the law. He committed a crime, only Nixon maybe comes to mind of someone that did that and got caught, and Nixon at least had the dignity to resign, Clinton weasled out. Perjury unpunished. Clinton should have been impeahed, I don't care if he had one minute left as president. Why are the laws on the books, if they are not treated as such, and more so upon the one person/position whom the most respect to and moral sense of should apply over all others. This is a step back for Democracy, a president can get away with anything just like a king (and I thought we left that concept behind) and so the world can see democracy is not much better if any than a monarchy. That should not have happened. Shame on you Clinton.

3. Gore and the election of 2000. (No I did not vote for Bush either in that election)
a. He said "every vote must count", when in fact he meant, "every vote must count, so long as it is for the Democrats". The very nerve of him to say something so meaningless. If he truely believed that indeed every vote must count and do so equally, why then did he not included all of the Florida counties instead of just 3 Democratic ones, or the state of New Mexico where the margin was less then 400 (because he won there and all democratic votes count, any other party does not matter to Gore).
b. Maybe the Democratic party did not officially start the legal actions, but Democrats did.
c. Seeing stupid, obviously more biased then Dennis the Menace's mom, old Lady in Broward counting voting cards. Which often for went like seeing a microscopic dent as a Gore vote or when another panelist said Bush, she said Gore, or if the chad barely hanging on for Bush, it was not a vote. (I could be exaggerating a little, but I did get that impression at least, and I know on a few occasions her descisions were blatantly suspect.
d. Several News Networks calling the election in Florida for Gore with a whopping 0% of the precincts reporting. Who did they think they were Nostradamus? And thus setting off bitter Democratic reaction and causing delayed election results and legal actions. Would it have been so if they had called it right in the first place? (This obviously was the start of seeing how biased toward the left the news had become). Tis a pity.
e. The Florida recount was illegal by Florida states own laws, as the original count was not off by a large enough number.
f. The fact that the recount took place, primarily at least and most often, in only *3* Florida counties, all *Democratic*. Gee do you think they would have higher results for one party over another under such circumstances. Does the word "unfair" ring any bells here?

4. The general direction of the Democratic party. Namely actions of hippocracy and conformity (all sound alike, at least the public ones). Hilary ranting against Newt about a $4 million book deal, and a few years later she makes one for $8 million (which is it Hilary? Politics and books or not). Everytime I see Democrats on news shows and they are asked a question (especially about wrong actions or partymembers) they always igore the question asked with responses like "Yeah! But the Republicans did this" or "that". So they sound like idiots because they can't answer questions or even sound like they are.

5. The two faced tactics of Democrats in this election. While Kerry complained about the Swiftboaters and that George and the Republicans should do something, Kerry did nothing to deter the "memogate" smear/lie campaign. There were many more such hippocratic examples, but these were the two biggest. Kerry within a 2 year period before the election kept siding with the war in Iraq then opposing then siding and then opposing again, and for some reason the Democrats thought this was the man to beat Bush. I hope Hiliary does not run, I do not trust her any more than I trust Ma Barker. (re: Hilary suspicious behaviors: Carpetbagging, hippocrit (one of the worst), her law firms legal entanglements (how can anyone be sure she did not have some part in it?), her mock act of a change in values with respect to women and families mostly).



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28 Aug 2007, 8:28 am

So I wonder if any of these things will influence Hilary Clinton's chances in the next US presidential election?


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