[Poll] What do you consider yourself to be religiously?

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What do you consider yourself to be religiously (or consider yourself not to be)
Christian (Protestant) ex. Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Quaker, Non-demonational 14%  14%  [ 14 ]
Christian (Catholic) (including Reformed Catholic aka Lutheran) 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Christian Scientologist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Mormon (LDS) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jehovah's Witness 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Agnostic 19%  19%  [ 19 ]
Atheist 30%  30%  [ 30 ]
Wiccan 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Satanist 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Spiritual but not religious 15%  15%  [ 15 ]
Hindi 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Muslim 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Buddhist 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Jewish 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Shinto 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Taoist 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Confucianism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Baha'i faith 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Zoroastrianism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Gnostic 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 101

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22 Apr 2009, 10:36 am

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I voted wiccan, but I am oh so close to being a atheist, but the only reason that I am not one is because I have no idea on what happens after I die.

Bill Mahr said it best, I am not a atheist because it mirrors the certainty that religion has, be can't know what happens after we die.

We CAN'T? Hmm, well you can be relatively sure you will be buried if you write that in your testament. :wink:


Sure we can decide what happens to our body, but you know what I mean. We know what happens during death, but not after. Do we go to a afterlife? Is it just nothingness? Who knows.


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22 Apr 2009, 11:08 am

Chibi_Neko wrote:
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I voted wiccan, but I am oh so close to being a atheist, but the only reason that I am not one is because I have no idea on what happens after I die.

Bill Mahr said it best, I am not a atheist because it mirrors the certainty that religion has, be can't know what happens after we die.

We CAN'T? Hmm, well you can be relatively sure you will be buried if you write that in your testament. :wink:


Sure we can decide what happens to our body, but you know what I mean. We know what happens during death, but not after. Do we go to a afterlife? Is it just nothingness? Who knows.

What happens after we die? Well, we're dead.

We return to the state we were before we were born, nothingness that is.

All that talk about afterlife and stuff like that is just our survival instincts talking.


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22 Apr 2009, 3:19 pm

Rational Deist. I voted my former indoctrination so I could see the results.


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22 Apr 2009, 5:25 pm

I'm intellectually agnostic (in the fairly strong sense that I'm capable of entertaining religious philosophy without spewing projectile vomit from every orifice, in sharp contrast to atheists per se).


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22 Apr 2009, 6:33 pm

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Well, Jewish is also considered to be a race/ethnicity, so I read it differently.


Not race, which is biological, but cultural which is learned.

Judaism cannot be a race. There Caucasian Jews, oriental Jews, African Jews. Many different skin colors and eye shapes. Judaism is a cultural dynamic based on some late Bronze Age superstitions. What makes Judaism special is that it produced (accidentally) a powerful and successful ethical system.

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What is a Semite?



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22 Apr 2009, 9:06 pm

Dee_ wrote:
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Well, Jewish is also considered to be a race/ethnicity, so I read it differently.


Not race, which is biological, but cultural which is learned.

Judaism cannot be a race. There Caucasian Jews, oriental Jews, African Jews. Many different skin colors and eye shapes. Judaism is a cultural dynamic based on some late Bronze Age superstitions. What makes Judaism special is that it produced (accidentally) a powerful and successful ethical system.

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What is a Semite?

Someone who speaks a Semitic language, e.g. an Arab, an Akkadian, an Amhar. etc.


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22 Apr 2009, 9:13 pm

twoshots's definition fits the bill. <.<



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23 Apr 2009, 11:02 pm

Interesting results so far. The top religious beliefs (or non-religious beliefs) are Christian (Protestant), Agnostic, Atheist, and Spiritual but not religious. If you combine Agnostic and Atheist, you have 48% of those polled, which is 3 x. the amount of Christian (Protestant).

I hypothesized that the results would predict that most aspies were either a.) Atheist or b.) Agnostic. It looks like my prediction was correct, even though it was a small sampling (52 people). It may not be indicative of ALL aspies, however, it does make sense.

Now, there has to be a reason for why the majority of those who voted were either agnostic or atheist, and I'd like to understand why. I have my own guesses why, but I'd like to hear what you have to say.

I have three reasons to go by. My first reason is that several aspies are atheist or agnostic because of their negative experiences with autism. I think that a lot of aspies have dealt with people who were rude, hateful, or cruel to them, and they wonder how God could ever let such things happen to good people. They might see much hatred and anger in the world, and they wonder how God could be present in such a world, where they have troubling understanding and socializing with others.

My second reason is that many aspies were not brought up in a religious environment, and therefore don't have a belief in a certain deity or religion. It is simply a matter of living day to day with them, without any religious significance.

My final reason is that agnostic or atheist aspies have heard of different religions, but they have no interest in them because they doubt religion and consider it nothing more that a medieval belief
that doesn't compare with scientific approach to what the world is and how it was made. Either that or these aspies had a religious upbringing, and were burned out on it after a while, and decided to become atheist/agnostic.



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23 Apr 2009, 11:12 pm

Your sample is not good; if you had posted, e.g., in GA your results would have been different probably. This is a philosophy phorum with an established community which is hostile to religion and drives them away (although, wait, 52 people? We don't have that many people who actually post here, do we?). Hence, the sample would be expected to represent non believers disproportionately.


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23 Apr 2009, 11:44 pm

twoshots wrote:
Your sample is not good; if you had posted, e.g., in GA your results would have been different probably. This is a philosophy phorum with an established community which is hostile to religion and drives them away (although, wait, 52 people? We don't have that many people who actually post here, do we?). Hence, the sample would be expected to represent non believers disproportionately.


Although nothing is openly stated in that direction there is an implication that there is something uncomfortable about having a majority of non-believers.

Being Aspie or autistic is rather unusual and leads people to analyze their differences in detail and question how and why the world is the way it is. It is most likely that religious people who accept many of the conflicting and rather unconvincing beliefs offered by religion because they choose not to think very deeply about them. Doubt is something not welcome in religion and doubt is one of the basic foundation stones of a questioning and curious and scientific attitude. Most religions cannot withstand deep questioning of their fundamentals so it is reasonable to assume a group which has a tendency to question commonly accepted beliefs would end up as non-believers.



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23 Apr 2009, 11:53 pm

Sand wrote:
twoshots wrote:
Your sample is not good; if you had posted, e.g., in GA your results would have been different probably. This is a philosophy phorum with an established community which is hostile to religion and drives them away (although, wait, 52 people? We don't have that many people who actually post here, do we?). Hence, the sample would be expected to represent non believers disproportionately.


Although nothing is openly stated in that direction there is an implication that there is something uncomfortable about having a majority of non-believers.

In my post? It was certainly not intended.


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23 Apr 2009, 11:59 pm

twoshots wrote:
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twoshots wrote:
Your sample is not good; if you had posted, e.g., in GA your results would have been different probably. This is a philosophy phorum with an established community which is hostile to religion and drives them away (although, wait, 52 people? We don't have that many people who actually post here, do we?). Hence, the sample would be expected to represent non believers disproportionately.


Although nothing is openly stated in that direction there is an implication that there is something uncomfortable about having a majority of non-believers.

In my post? It was certainly not intended.


OK. Sorry. I misunderstood.



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24 Apr 2009, 3:10 am

Sand wrote:
Being Aspie or autistic is rather unusual and leads people to analyze their differences in detail and question how and why the world is the way it is. It is most likely that religious people who accept many of the conflicting and rather unconvincing beliefs offered by religion because they choose not to think very deeply about them. Doubt is something not welcome in religion and doubt is one of the basic foundation stones of a questioning and curious and scientific attitude. Most religions cannot withstand deep questioning of their fundamentals so it is reasonable to assume a group which has a tendency to question commonly accepted beliefs would end up as non-believers.


Doubt and unbelief is as welcome as Banquo's ghost at the dinner tables of the Believers. The True Believers measure the correctness of their beliefs accord to how well they impose their own beliefs on others. Hence, evangelicals score them selves on how many people they convert. Never mind that the attempt to alter other people's thinking uninvited is a kind of mental assault. They "reason" as follows: I must be right since so many think as I do. And if I can get someone else to change that just proves how right I am.

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24 Apr 2009, 8:01 am

I'm christen... but I am open to other beliefs and it's my view that most religions worship the same god or diffrent parts of that god.


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24 Apr 2009, 1:44 pm

God is a divine equation and
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24 Apr 2009, 8:32 pm

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Rational Deist.


Oxymoron.