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28 Apr 2009, 2:55 pm

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But the conscious weeding out of what is assumed to be irrelevant factors has a reasonable chance of destroying valuable unknowns...

As I said before, human societies have been participating in a form of eugenics for thousands of years at the least. Certain modern religions prevent individuals marrying outside the faith, and as you or that ruveyn chap pointed out, many thousands of years ago Spartans cast their sub-standard offspring from a cliff to their death. Clearly none of that has prevented us expanding our population exponentially, sending men to the moon, or splitting the atom.



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28 Apr 2009, 3:04 pm

ascan wrote:
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But the conscious weeding out of what is assumed to be irrelevant factors has a reasonable chance of destroying valuable unknowns...

As I said before, human societies have been participating in a form of eugenics for thousands of years at the least. Certain modern religions prevent individuals marrying outside the faith, and as you or that ruveyn chap pointed out, many thousands of years ago Spartans cast their sub-standard offspring from a cliff to their death. Clearly none of that has prevented us expanding our population exponentially, sending men to the moon, or splitting the atom.


You cannot possibly equate the "eugenics" of ethnic discrimination or random weeding out of cripples or malformed babies with the determined efforts of a modern eugenics program aided by government enforcement by all the technological methods and computer driven objectives. That's totally unperceptive.



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28 Apr 2009, 3:22 pm

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The best and the brightest shall prevail. Like the poor, they will endure.

However, most of humanity is slobs like me and my kids. Average people are needed in this world. Not everyone can have a high IQ. I think to learn to think critically is just as important as being in the top ten for brains. 8)


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28 Apr 2009, 3:53 pm

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You cannot possibly equate the "eugenics" of ethnic discrimination or random weeding out of cripples or malformed babies with the determined efforts of a modern eugenics program aided by government enforcement by all the technological methods and computer driven objectives. That's totally unperceptive.

I think it would help if you'd elaborate on your position, Sand. My position is that in principle I believe eugenics can be used for the good of humanity. The ethics relating to the detail of how it's used is another argument.



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28 Apr 2009, 5:17 pm

ascan wrote:
Sand wrote:
You cannot possibly equate the "eugenics" of ethnic discrimination or random weeding out of cripples or malformed babies with the determined efforts of a modern eugenics program aided by government enforcement by all the technological methods and computer driven objectives. That's totally unperceptive.

I think it would help if you'd elaborate on your position, Sand. My position is that in principle I believe eugenics can be used for the good of humanity. The ethics relating to the detail of how it's used is another argument.


My position is that humans are just to damned plain dumb and ignorant and driven by unjustifiable standards to take complete charge of the possible variations in human potentials. And modern technology equips them with much too powerful controls which is a formula for disaster.