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06 Sep 2015, 3:32 am

I don't know.



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06 Sep 2015, 3:42 am

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Things are going to get harder for those of us with these cognitive issues as public services are also going to be taken to with an axe all across the West and many of us will be forced to the streets.

TPTB and the public will not long tolerate further hordes of homeless in the streets, if this comes to pass, eventually those hordes will be done away with one way or another.


Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore.

In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.



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06 Sep 2015, 3:49 am

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but I thought those crazies were all over the globe. cut out the mold growth in one spot, it pops up in several other spots like a cancer, like a game of "whack-a-mole."


ISIS...dumb and on a road to nowhere. I dont pay these fools much attention cos theyre gonna lose. The big game is with globalisation and the markets.



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06 Sep 2015, 4:00 am

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Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore. In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.

being that In many American localities it is illegal to assist the homeless or even feed them/give them money, it is but a short step from that to more definitive "solutions." I put nothing past the money classes.



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06 Sep 2015, 5:01 am

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Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore. In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.

being that In many American localities it is illegal to assist the homeless or even feed them/give them money, it is but a short step from that to more definitive "solutions." I put nothing past the money classes.


I have to wonder: just how much of the religious right is taking a stand against making it illegal to feed the homeless as they do with the same vigor they attack gay marriage?


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06 Sep 2015, 5:45 am

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Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore. In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.

being that In many American localities it is illegal to assist the homeless or even feed them/give them money, it is but a short step from that to more definitive "solutions." I put nothing past the money classes.


I have to wonder: just how much of the religious right is taking a stand against making it illegal to feed the homeless as they do with the same vigor they attack gay marriage?


Over here in New Zealand, homelessness is something of a stigma and thus, the problem is invisible. Of course, when it is reduced to the cognitively different which I think it is going to be in the next decade and given that we are largely what we are due to our physiology, I hate to imagine what the invisibility will look like behind the scenes. I am not waiting and have made damned sure I am not dependent on anyone especially my family who have been deplorable to say the least.



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06 Sep 2015, 1:47 pm

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You liberals are wasting all that hate and intolerance you insist you don't harbor on a man that's not even seriously interested in being the next president. He's doing it just to stir the pot.


I had the same thought I hope its true. He really doesn`t give a monkeys about messing up the democratic process he is so self-oriented

he just wants some attention ... maybe his mummy didn`t cuddle him.

p.s. I don`t hate anyone, I hate what he is doing but this guy Trump is like a spoilt kid he`s just an absolute w*ker.
This does this make me a `liberal`?



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06 Sep 2015, 4:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore. In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.

being that In many American localities it is illegal to assist the homeless or even feed them/give them money, it is but a short step from that to more definitive "solutions." I put nothing past the money classes.


I have to wonder: just how much of the religious right is taking a stand against making it illegal to feed the homeless as they do with the same vigor they attack gay marriage?

I would bet it is exactly the same people for the very same reasons, IOW they are fighting the evil "other."



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06 Sep 2015, 5:01 pm

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Its going to go the other way. Allistics are generally going to improve their circumstances. The homeless of the future will be those who cannot hold down a job...mostly for the reasons that bedevil us. Basically, we are mostly unproductive, we arent consumers but we are sufficiently a minority to not really matter as a public eyesore. In every country, this is the fate that awaits us....unless we can learn to take care of ourselves. Of course, in the long run, the planet will take a massive hit on its environment due to all this development but that is far enough away to not be an issue for most of us alive today.

being that In many American localities it is illegal to assist the homeless or even feed them/give them money, it is but a short step from that to more definitive "solutions." I put nothing past the money classes.


I have to wonder: just how much of the religious right is taking a stand against making it illegal to feed the homeless as they do with the same vigor they attack gay marriage?

I would bet it is exactly the same people for the very same reasons, IOW they are fighting the evil "other."


Probably so.


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06 Sep 2015, 5:13 pm

Why in heavens name would we be seen as evil? What drives a mind like that?



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06 Sep 2015, 5:38 pm

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Why in heavens name would we be seen as evil? What drives a mind like that?

the primitive mind of what Nietzsche referred-to as a "backworldsman" or provincial type who tends towards moral atavism whenever confronted with the larger world outside their self-cloistered circle. people like the kochs take advantage of that in a way best described in this little example- a union worker, a member of the Tea Party, and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table there is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across the table, takes 11 cookies, looks at the Tea Partier and says: "Look out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie."



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06 Sep 2015, 5:50 pm

In other words, the subjective mind as I call it as opposed to the reason driven mind or more conscious mind.

I am presently reading up on quantum physics theories on the role played by consciousness in forming reality. Fascinating stuff. Doesnt make the day to day stuff we talk about any the less challenging but the more I understand this world, the better I can strategise to get the most out of it, even if I have to camouflage myself.



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06 Sep 2015, 7:36 pm

Do not doubt that Trump is out to win.

He is using the same style that won for him a lot of times before.

You can't do that, they won't let you, is a weak reply.

What Trump sees and works is in a system where the majority feel alienated, and have the vote, someone who stands up to the Isms that alienate the people can win.

Results have been Huey Long, Adolf Hitler, and Trump admits to concealed carry and is wearing a vest. He had top security before getting in this politics game.

Elections have been going to big money. They can only spend it if they have someone to get behind, or in attack ads. Trump Carson have such a lead that money could not change things.

The Republican Party would if they could, but history says attack Trump, get ready for the massive counter attack.

Hispanics never did vote Republican, unless they wanted something. At best they were 4% of the Republican vote.

The Wall, Deportation, Anchor Babies, are strong issues for 40%. There are more votes to gain than to lose.

NAFTA was a mistake, the latest trade agreements are secrets, and we did not trust Washington to start with.

Our remaining industrial workers, Union members, fear the worst and used to vote Democrat. They got screwed.

Blacks turned out for Obama, but got sent to jail, bad schools, decaying neighborhoods, and higher unemployment. They were the minorities who bought houses and were screwed by trick contracts, lost their investment and their credit rating. Mexicans moved in and took over.

Trump at least talks about getting rid of the illegals, and restricting all immigration till American employment numbers are up, and he says Black inner city, Women, and STEM grads.

This is going to pull Black votes, Women, College grads now flipping burgers.

Trump spoke against Visas for Tech workers. Silicon Valley went Democrat for cheap labor, but unemployed American tech workers have the votes.

The Democrats seemed 100% Homosexual. Obama will go down in history as the Homosexual President. They got everything they wanted, and now have nothing left to vote Democrat for. As two paycheck childless couples, they will now vote their economic interests.

As all Democrats are known to worship Demons, or Jews, the Religious will have only the toleration of the Republican Party. Democrats would bring in a million Syrian terrorists and turn Churches into Mosques. Democrats want to turn Salt Lake City half Islamic.

Democrats see the middle of the country as fly over. To them it should be made useful, such as settling tens of millions of Chinese, Indian and African homosexuals there. There is still oppression on earth, oppressed people with money.

This will give Trump the popular vote and the Electoral.



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06 Sep 2015, 7:37 pm

if trump runs with carson, that will be just one more reason to vote against him.



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06 Sep 2015, 7:42 pm

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You don't think Trump, a New Yorker, doesn't really see the middle of the country as fly over country?
And as for the Syrian refugees being terrorists - if anything, they are fleeing from being killed by terrorists from both sides. They are ordinary people caught in the middle of a horrendous situation.


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06 Sep 2015, 7:47 pm

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if trump runs with carson, that will be just one more reason to vote against him.


Yeah; every narrow minded, right wing fundy in the country will vote for that ticket, ushering in a new age of ignorance.


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