14 Nov 2020, 6:37 pm
14 Nov 2020, 6:45 pm
14 Nov 2020, 6:48 pm
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
14 Nov 2020, 6:49 pm
14 Nov 2020, 6:52 pm
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Really? I don't remember the Democrats challenging the 2016 election in court that was not only closer in terms of the electoral college votes, but Trump had also lost the popular vote. Perhaps you can show how often a party challenges elections results in court for a presidential race?
14 Nov 2020, 6:53 pm
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Quote:
Early last month, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did a bad tweet. After misreading an article in the Nation on the Pentagon’s accounting errors, Ocasio-Cortez falsely claimed that the Defense Department had wasted enough money over the past two decades to finance 66 percent of Medicare for All. This was an innocent mistake. The congresswoman had cited her source, and linked to it, making it easy for fact-checkers to uncover her error — and thus, for Anderson Cooper to call attention to her “fuzzy math” on this week’s 60 Minutes.
Politicians usually aren't great at maths. There was something of a fun game the press used to play in the UK. It played itself out many times over the last few decades. Politician says "Our schools are failing" "grades are inflated" "kids aren't being taught properly anymore" or perhaps unveils a scheme to help underperforming children etc. Journalist would then ask them a simple general knowledge question or to spell a word, or a basic times tables question - which they then get wrong and everyone has a good laugh. They are wise to it now though and always dodge the question if possible.
Is it any wonder there is so little respect for the political 'family'?
14 Nov 2020, 7:01 pm
Jiheisho wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Really? I don't remember the Democrats challenging the 2016 election in court that was not only closer in terms of the electoral college votes, but Trump had also lost the popular vote. Perhaps you can show how often a party challenges elections results in court for a presidential race?
Yes, really!
If there was any doubt, the Democrats were foolish *not* to get the judiciary system involved!
BTW:
Quote:
At ABC, Fox News and CNN, Ted Koppel, Judy Woodruff and Brit Hume covered the Al Gore versus George Bush race until the Supreme Court ruling over a month later: "I remember the 37 days [after] even more vividly than election night."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... t-election
Matey, your credibility is getting a little tattered there.
14 Nov 2020, 7:03 pm
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14 Nov 2020, 7:12 pm
AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
Jiheisho, your words are a breath of much needed fresh air.
More rational thinking and actions are badly needed here.
More rational thinking and actions are badly needed here.
Sadly our self-proclaimed rational thinkers aren't.
14 Nov 2020, 7:13 pm
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Really? I don't remember the Democrats challenging the 2016 election in court that was not only closer in terms of the electoral college votes, but Trump had also lost the popular vote. Perhaps you can show how often a party challenges elections results in court for a presidential race?
Yes, really!
If there was any doubt, the Democrats were foolish *not* to get the judiciary system involved!
BTW:
Quote:
At ABC, Fox News and CNN, Ted Koppel, Judy Woodruff and Brit Hume covered the Al Gore versus George Bush race until the Supreme Court ruling over a month later: "I remember the 37 days [after] even more vividly than election night."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... t-election
Matey, your credibility is getting a little tattered there.
Oh, you are talking about the 2000 election where there was no clear winner! But you see, there was no clear winner. Unlike this year, where there is a clear winner. The same in 2016, 2012, 2008, 2004, 1996, 1992, 1988, and so on. See a pattern?
Let me help you out with some logic:
When there is a clear winner, then the winner wins.
When there is no clear winner, then you need a process to determine that.
Let me know if this is still a bit too complicated.
14 Nov 2020, 7:16 pm
Jiheisho wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Really? I don't remember the Democrats challenging the 2016 election in court that was not only closer in terms of the electoral college votes, but Trump had also lost the popular vote. Perhaps you can show how often a party challenges elections results in court for a presidential race?
I seem to recall hundreds of hours investigation hearings going on from 2016 to 2019.
Imo there's not that much difference this time around. There are accusations, claims, conjecture, protests and investigations, just like over the last election.
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14 Nov 2020, 7:25 pm
cyberdad wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
Another super spreading event?
It is that, and they have only themselves to blame.
14 Nov 2020, 7:30 pm
Kraichgauer
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Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
14 Nov 2020, 7:31 pm
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Sure, the judicial process needs to be adhered to. But it also needs to be shown respect, and not subjected to frivolous lawsuits that Trump's legal team are filing.
14 Nov 2020, 7:33 pm
14 Nov 2020, 7:35 pm
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump supporters rally today in DC at a "Million MAGA March"
And people still believe in the "Lost Cause" myth of the civil war. You don't win an election based on how many people turn up to a rally, but rather how many ballots turn up to a polling station.
I am not a Trump supporter.
But the judicial process needs to be adhered to.
It is part of the American political system.
The Democrats would be foolish not to do the same if the shoe was on other foot.
Not rocket surgery.
Really? I don't remember the Democrats challenging the 2016 election in court that was not only closer in terms of the electoral college votes, but Trump had also lost the popular vote. Perhaps you can show how often a party challenges elections results in court for a presidential race?
I seem to recall hundreds of hours investigation hearings going on from 2016 to 2019.
Imo there's not that much difference this time around. There are accusations, claims, conjecture, protests and investigations, just like over the last election.
Please, show me evidence the Democrats refusing to concede and then pursuing judicial suits in the 2016 election. You may be right, but I don't remember the Democrats contesting the election results.
And what were those hearings on? Where they contesting the election results? There were hearings on election integrity, but those were not contesting the results, but looking at election interference. Or are you saying we should not also make sure our election system is not being influenced or tampered with?
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