Why do people want Trump?

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06 Feb 2022, 1:31 am

Oh sorry, it's not available in my area, Canada. Can you tell me who did the interview or something so I can try to find this one particularly?

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06 Feb 2022, 1:38 am

See if this one works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFwrG-8Mwc

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06 Feb 2022, 1:43 am

It works thanks. I found another video on it. When he says "when you are a star, they will let you do anything. grab them by the p%%^y". However, if I am interpreting the context correctly, he is saying that women let him and they are wanting him to do it, because he is a star. So if the women are willing and are letting him how that him abusing or mistreating him them, if they are wanting him to do so because he is a star and they are attracted to that? Is this really a good example of being abusive, if you are talking about how women want sex from you?

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06 Feb 2022, 2:08 am

I don't know if it qualifies as "being abusive." Depends how you define that. To me it just shows that the man's attitude is straight from the gutter. I couldn't like a man who said things like that. He also admits to trying to hump a married woman. It's possibly forgivable from a teenager who hasn't grown up yet. But how old was he when that recording was made?

He defended himself by playing it down as "locker talk" that he didn't really mean. Doesn't quite fit with the fact that he cheated on his wife. He also says Bill Clinton was worse. Well, Bill Clinton got thrown out when the truth came to light. And it's beside the point. Boris Johnson probably has more integrity than Hitler, but that doesn't mean Boris Johnson is fit to run a country. Politicians often do that trick of pointing to somebody who was also guilty. It doesn't make them innocent. I don't want to vote for dirty old men.

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06 Feb 2022, 2:12 am

I see what you mean. The man likes to sleep around it seems. But Bill Clinton did and he didn't get this much hate back then that started riots and what not. Why is is Trump so much more hated tham him in comparison?

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06 Feb 2022, 9:03 am

I think Trump is pretty unique in that he has no redeeming qualities whatever.

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06 Feb 2022, 9:28 am

It's gotten to the point where personality is more important than what they achieve in office. Trump has a nasty, offensive personality, but past presidents have done far worse damage to our country. Trump's saving grace was he was pretty incompetent and unable to do as much damage as career politicians.

Bill Clinton gutted welfare, deregulated Wall Street, and passed NAFTA. That alone makes him worse than Trump.

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06 Feb 2022, 9:32 am

^ Yep. It's much the same "personality" situation with UK politics; it poisons everything.

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06 Feb 2022, 12:40 pm

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Depends how you measure. Didn't trump add the most to the national debt of any president ever? 7 Trillion dollars or something ? I'd rate that as a giant F up.

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06 Feb 2022, 1:00 pm

Doberdoofus wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Didn't trump add the most to the national debt of any president ever? 7 Trillion dollars or something ? I'd rate that as a giant F up.

I believe that was Franklin Roosevelt ( $236,143,514,849.78 in 12 years ), Obama in 2nd ($8,335,071,012,541.80 in 8 years ) , Trump 3rd ($6,807,290,102,465.77 in 4 years).

That Roosevelt number is far smaller than the others.
Obama's was over 8 years.
So, trump did plunge the country into debt farther and faster than any other American president - 7 trillskis in 4 years is a lot of moula.

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06 Feb 2022, 1:09 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

Doberdoofus wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Didn't trump add the most to the national debt of any president ever? 7 Trillion dollars or something ? I'd rate that as a giant F up.

I believe that was Franklin Roosevelt ( $236,143,514,849.78 in 12 years ), Obama in 2nd ($8,335,071,012,541.80 in 8 years ) , Trump 3rd ($6,807,290,102,465.77 in 4 years).

I got the numbers from here but cant count today :oops:

https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/

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Abraham Lincoln is the President that added the biggest percentage increase to the U.S. National Debt. The level of debt increased from $90.6 million in 1857 to $2.68 billion in 1861, an increase of 2859.4%.

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06 Feb 2022, 3:18 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

Doberdoofus wrote:

goldfish21 wrote:

Didn't trump add the most to the national debt of any president ever? 7 Trillion dollars or something ? I'd rate that as a giant F up.

I believe that was Franklin Roosevelt ( $236,143,514,849.78 in 12 years ), Obama in 2nd ($8,335,071,012,541.80 in 8 years ) , Trump 3rd ($6,807,290,102,465.77 in 4 years).

According to the link:

Roosevelt increased the national debt by 1047.73 %.

Obama increased the national debt by 69.98 %.
Trump increased the national debt by 472%.

You have to take into consideration the Covid pandemic that began during Trump's presidency. You also have to consider the economic depression of the 1930s during Roosevelt's reign, and the New Deal which was passed to address it.

I'm not sure what your point is, to be honest.

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06 Feb 2022, 3:53 pm

Must say I was glad of those Covid relief cheques they sent me, which kept the wolf from the door. The UK's relief was miserly in comparison, and horribly means tested. I'd have got nothing. So I suppose that's one plus for Trump, though I note the Republicans as a whole didn't approve, and that the relief cheque initiative was more a Democrat thing.

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07 Feb 2022, 2:44 am

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I've been thinking, are people perhaps too offended by Trump saying the 'grab her by the p^%$sy' because Trump is a man saying it? I feel that if a female President candidate said something like that 'grab him by the c%^k', most guys would not be offended by that and a lot of them would probably think it would be kind of hot for a woman in power to say something like that. So are people extra offended by such a line, if it's a man saying it?

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07 Feb 2022, 11:10 am

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I'd see it as just as unseemly in a woman as in a man. I don't like lewd folks. I would think most people who disliked it in a man would also dislike it in a woman, and I've often heard from those who promote women's rights that society frowns more on a woman who is openly sexual than they would a man, though I'm no expert on the attitudes of the general public. And Trump's remarks suggest that he views women as mere sex objects rather than as people. Presumably so do a lot of his supporters.

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07 Feb 2022, 11:16 am

Yeah....why do people want Trump, anyway?

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