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26 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

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I don't think reasoned replies violate ToS, but I guess we'll find out.


Maybe this is a spectrum issue and you don't understand so I will explain, when I made a post about approval ratings the response you made was not well reasoned and was unnecessary and the only point was to try to needle at me. Who do you think you're convincing? I think you're having delusions of grandeur if you think there is this huge audience cheering you on. Now you went back and edited your post to add a little but you have made a deliberate effort to annoy and attempt to be quippy. I don't have any more interest in discussing anything with you.


I will let these assertions stand unchallenged. People can draw their own conclusions if they can even be bothered.


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26 Jan 2017, 11:58 am

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As for a Trump reelection: I wouldn't be surprised if his own party impeached him for incompetence due to his "alternative facts," his war on the media, and his general estrangement from reality.

War crimes and false facts to justify wars didn't stop left and right wing parties getting reelected for 2nd or 3rd terms (Labour in the UK, Republicans in the US) so why would Trump not get reelected for an interpretation of facts you disagree with? Partisanship is truly the cotton wool over the eyes of men.


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26 Jan 2017, 12:33 pm

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Putin is a ancient of the KGB; so that he built vast intelligence networks and is using propaganda to undermine other nations is rather credible and should have been expected.


1. Putin was never a KGB agent. He worked for an entirely different agency.

2. The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.

What agency is that? His official bio has him working there.


Putin worked for the foreign intelligence wing, which was a branch of the KGB, as opposed to him being a KGB agent.

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I can't even figure out what 2 is supposed to mean.


Does the KGB still exist?:
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Technically, no. The KGB (Committee for State Security) was replaced by the FSB (Federal Security Bureau) in 1991 but many would argue that this was a change in name only. ... The KGB had representation in every communist party in the world. It would be the same as saying that Germany still has a GESTAPO.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-KGB-still-exist

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I assume you put as much thought into the logical progression of ideas as you put into research on 1.


That was a foolish assumption and an incorrect conclusion.

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You can take someone's badge, but you can't take their knowledge, personal contacts, or secret supply of embarrassing documents.


Whatever.



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26 Jan 2017, 12:38 pm

Okay, the KGB ceased to exist as such when you say it did, by that definition of existence which has validity.

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26 Jan 2017, 12:41 pm

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Okay, the KGB ceased to exist as such when you say it did, by that definition of existence which has validity.

Whatever.


Apology accepted.



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26 Jan 2017, 12:45 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Putin is a ancient of the KGB; so that he built vast intelligence networks and is using propaganda to undermine other nations is rather credible and should have been expected.


1. Putin was never a KGB agent. He worked for an entirely different agency.

2. The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.

What agency is that? His official bio has him working there.


Putin worked for the foreign intelligence wing, which was a branch of the KGB, as opposed to him being a KGB agent.

jrjones9933 wrote:
I can't even figure out what 2 is supposed to mean.


Does the KGB still exist?:
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Technically, no. The KGB (Committee for State Security) was replaced by the FSB (Federal Security Bureau) in 1991 but many would argue that this was a change in name only. ... The KGB had representation in every communist party in the world. It would be the same as saying that Germany still has a GESTAPO.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-KGB-still-exist

jrjones9933 wrote:
I assume you put as much thought into the logical progression of ideas as you put into research on 1.


That was a foolish assumption and an incorrect conclusion.

jrjones9933 wrote:
You can take someone's badge, but you can't take their knowledge, personal contacts, or secret supply of embarrassing documents.


Whatever.


Actually, during the Cold War, German intelligence had little choice but to enlist former members of the SS and Gestapo, as they were the only ones in that country who had those intelligence skills and necessary associations. It wasn't till the next generation of Germans that their intelligence service was able to find a crop of a better class of people to draw from.
I personally have no doubt that Putin isn't alone in Russian intelligence who harken back to the KGB days.


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26 Jan 2017, 1:12 pm

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the president's approval rating just hit 59% according to Rasmussen

EXCELLENT!! This makes me hopeful that we have LESS sheeple in this country, than I have previously thought!!








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26 Jan 2017, 1:17 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
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jrjones9933 wrote:
I don't think reasoned replies violate ToS, but I guess we'll find out.

Maybe this is a spectrum issue and you don't understand so I will explain, when I made a post about approval ratings the response you made was not well reasoned and was unnecessary and the only point was to try to needle at me. Who do you think you're convincing? I think you're having delusions of grandeur if you think there is this huge audience cheering you on. Now you went back and edited your post to add a little but you have made a deliberate effort to annoy and attempt to be quippy. I don't have any more interest in discussing anything with you.

I will let these assertions stand unchallenged. People can draw their own conclusions if they can even be bothered.

Yes, and I don't think Jacoby comes anywhere NEAR to having a reading comprehension problem!!




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26 Jan 2017, 1:53 pm

Good to see you again, Cat! I'm not the kind of kitty who invites people to do something and then complains when they do. I think Jacoby does it deliberately. People are saying that the Russian cyberwar playbook for discussion boards has been read by the conservatives here, and I think it deserves investigation.

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the president's approval rating just hit 59% according to Rasmussen

EXCELLENT!! This makes me hopeful that we have LESS sheeple in this country, than I have previously thought!!

I interpret the data differently, but maybe we can agree that America deserves Trump.
About 3/4 of Republicans and over half of Democrats support torture at least in some cases. He is saying what people want him to say and doing what they want him to do.


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26 Jan 2017, 2:34 pm

Vlad's story.
http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio


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26 Jan 2017, 2:52 pm

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Vlad's story.
http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio

Pfft. As expected, that page fails to acknowledge his trans-lizard origins, which have been widely reported online.

Just more dezinformatsiya.


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26 Jan 2017, 3:10 pm

Jacoby wrote:
You are trying to make the debate topic me more so than actually having a point to what you are saying, if you want a clue on where you went wrong it's when you replied to me. Do not talk to me any longer.

anyways

the president's approval rating just hit 59% according to Rasmussen

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... rack_jan26

:P :mrgreen:


A possibly right leaning conservative biased poll from what I've been reading. Hopefully these numbers are way off. I've got to quit reading these political threads.



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26 Jan 2017, 3:36 pm

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Vlad's story.
http://eng.putin.kremlin.ru/bio

Pfft. As expected, that page fails to acknowledge his trans-lizard origins, which have been widely reported online.

Just more dezinformatsiya.

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26 Jan 2017, 5:03 pm

Well this is B.S, I guess science and facts are 'offensive' to the trump administration.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/trump-administration-orders-communications-blackout-for-us-scientists/

Lol if any of you trump supporters here can convince me this is a good move, then I will compliment your amazing debate skills.... :roll: Why shouldn't scientists be able to keep the public aware of environmental issues? Besides since one of Trump and his supporters big things was how he has no filter and challenges political correctness I figured that would tie over to not being a fan of any censorship...well what is this?

hypocrisy?


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26 Jan 2017, 5:13 pm

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Well this is B.S, I guess science and facts are 'offensive' to the trump administration.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/trump-administration-orders-communications-blackout-for-us-scientists/

Lol if any of you trump supporters here can convince me this is a good move, then I will compliment your amazing debate skills.... :roll: Why shouldn't scientists be able to keep the public aware of environmental issues? Besides since one of Trump and his supporters big things was how he has no filter and challenges political correctness I figured that would tie over to not being a fan of any censorship...well what is this?

hypocrisy?


It was rescinded. According to this article, it doesn't look like it originated from Trump.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/dinograndoni/t ... .mp8YwAXJM


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26 Jan 2017, 5:25 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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Well this is B.S, I guess science and facts are 'offensive' to the trump administration.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/trump-administration-orders-communications-blackout-for-us-scientists/

Lol if any of you trump supporters here can convince me this is a good move, then I will compliment your amazing debate skills.... :roll: Why shouldn't scientists be able to keep the public aware of environmental issues? Besides since one of Trump and his supporters big things was how he has no filter and challenges political correctness I figured that would tie over to not being a fan of any censorship...well what is this?

hypocrisy?


It was rescinded. According to this article, it doesn't look like it originated from Trump.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/dinograndoni/t ... .mp8YwAXJM


Well good it damn well should be rescinded.

And the order must have originated from his administration if not him...so either he needs to get control of his administration and tell them to tone down the police state behavior, if he truly was ignorant of this and didn't mean for it to happen. Or he's just as guilty of approving those actions being put in place.


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