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Is it wrong to bear arms?
Yes 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
No 81%  81%  [ 66 ]
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16 Sep 2007, 1:54 am

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Unfortunately, the stereotype has been created that a gun owner will more than like try to be a hero than a responsible person, because we see this all the time in the media. It can't be ignored, so we can only go by what we are shown day in and day out. Plus the fact that too many of these weapons are too readily available to anyone who can get a permit and who has the cash. How many cases also are there where people have their guns stolen from their homes, or their children take them to school and they are stolen from their bags? Far too many I would imagine. The only safe weapon is no weapon at all, because as has been said, they are only designed for one purpose, and that is to kill. Worrying about corrupt police or corrupt governments is just another excuse to justify a 'need' which really isn't relevant in today's society. Maybe I am lucky living in Australia where we don't have the corruption that you guys do. That makes it all the better for me, but it still means that you guys have a long way to go.


That's your problem right there. You rely on the television and the local news to tell you everything to think and believe. In other words your a sheep. You are post-militantly conventional. You are the status quo, liberal brand. It's ironic that you'd go through my other posts and find the one furthest against conventional thinking (sexual rights post) to attack is it not?
You think because you call yourself a pagan and you probably have purple hair and wear maskara that your an individual. Truth is, there are hundreds of thousands just like you. They all claim to be "open minded", but in reality you are all incredibly ignorant. Individuality isn't something you can buy at Hot Topic, you know?
Most of the greatest minds ever who broke the most grounds were NON-CONVENTIONAL, they didn't blindly follow everything the majority thought, believed, and acted on. They ****questioned****** the majority, something you are obviously psychotically against.



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16 Sep 2007, 1:54 am

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Start with the ones who instigated it in the first place; why should the one retaliating always cop the blame? Seems a bit unfair when certain people can get away with blue murder while others like me have to cop it.

Ah, but as it's the USAWWW here, I shouldn't be surprised.....


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16 Sep 2007, 1:56 am

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i just gave my view on why i believed the 2nd amendment wasn't relevant in todays society, and why in 2007 private citizens do not need guns when you have a police force who can take care of any crime.


There's no such thing. You're delusional.


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16 Sep 2007, 1:57 am

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I mean does Bush even look like someone you could trust? He looks like a f***ing used car dealer or a f***ing lawyer. The guy screams sleazoid.


Who says I trust him? So, why don't you use your supposed right to bear arms to overthrow him? Do you have a good reason why you cannot?


Can you give us Americans a good reason to?


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16 Sep 2007, 1:59 am

Everyone just stop responding to him. He is too closed minded to ever get it. He has no idea what it is to be an American but blindly hates them anyway based off of inaccurate stereotypes. None of us will ever change that, no matter what we say. This thread needs to die, I have seen nothing but flaming and trolling for pages. I was going to have another response 15 pages ago but this thread had degenerated too much by then.


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16 Sep 2007, 2:00 am

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That second amendment should have been flushed along with the rest of the dunny paper and crap that forms your Constitution. Jesus, will you look at yourselves, everyone running around blowing each others heads off because they are armed, and then the neighbours get bigger guns, then the street gangs get Uzis and rob petrol stations and bottle shops because they have the firepower.... Where will it end? Anyone who thinks that owning a weapon makes them safer should go and visit their nearest mental hospital and book themselves in for an extended stay, because it's the THREAT of these weapons that causes the problem. The only ones that should bear arms are the armed forces and the police, and even the police go too f*cking far. It seems to me that it all hails back to the Wild West days of Jesse James and Billy the Kid. Well, it's 2007 now and those days of 'shoot first and ask questions later' have gone. If Britain and Australia can do without the right to bear arms, then surely you could join the rest of us in the 21st century as well.


This for starters.


This for starters, is nothing but shrill histrionics. Take a class in critical thinking 101 will you?


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16 Sep 2007, 2:00 am

BS. There are reasoned posts
in here. They're just few and far
between.



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16 Sep 2007, 2:02 am

Those posts are falling on deaf ears.


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16 Sep 2007, 2:04 am

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I admitted guns in the wrong peoples' hands are bad.


Then, how do you propose to counter this? How would you prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands?


It's not possible don't you get that?? America has borders and ports that it can't control 50% much less 100%. Guns will always get into the hands of those who will mis-use them. Cops can't be everywhere all the time. Someone has to defend the people in the mean time, and that has to be.......... THE PEOPLE.






durrr :roll:


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16 Sep 2007, 2:04 am

Not until I get one first.

I stand by my comments that no law-abiding citizen should even consider owning a gun in a society where they don't need one. The reason for all these idiot gangsta style drive-by shootings is patently obvious. Since our gun buy-back and amnesty of 10 years ago, we now have very little gun crime, and even though the criminals still get theirs via the black market, the only ones who really qualify for the need of a rifle (as handguns are seen to be only necessary for police) or shotty are farmers, sports shooters (and I don't see that as a necessity either, just a macho hobby) and the military. We get on fine. AND we are just as civilized as you guys. I have not seen one argument that has made any sense pertaining to the rightful ownership of guns; all I've seen is theories about revolutions and such forth. For a nation that has meant to have asvances so much as you guys think you have, your attitude obviously doesn't reflect this. Matter of fact, i would probably join Trigger11 as a conscientious objector as well if I were 20-odd years younger, because at least that would guarantee my survival.


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16 Sep 2007, 2:06 am

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QM: He can't, and he knows it. He'll just resort to more strawmen and insults,


You mean just like what you're doing?






















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16 Sep 2007, 2:07 am

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Not until I get one first.

I stand by my comments that no law-abiding citizen should even consider owning a gun in a society where they don't need one.


So you're the Nazi who will tell us who needs one and who doesn't?


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16 Sep 2007, 2:09 am

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Not until I get one first.

The reason for all these idiot gangsta style drive-by shootings is patently obvious. Since our gun buy-back and amnesty of 10 years ago, we now have very little gun crime, and even though the criminals still get theirs via the black market,


"very little gun crime" depends on who you ask. I've seen crime stats from Au that indicate gun crime steadily rising.


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16 Sep 2007, 2:10 am

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........ sports shooters (and I don't see that as a necessity either, just a macho hobby)


What would I do without you telling me how to live my life? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
































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16 Sep 2007, 2:22 am

Absolutely no one, no one, should have the right or even the possibility to bear arms, except the army and the police. Period. OK????

End of problem.

No, really, don't be emotional about victims and really think about this logically: if ONLY the army and the police can bear arms, then there's never a reason for arms be sold except in rare cases (army and police).
Therefore the likelyhood of obtaining a gun would greatly diminish, and therefore the incidents of gun related deaths would have to as well.

I think I could probably successfully fight against a knife or bear hands, but against a gun there is no hope.

Nobody in society has the right or the wisdom to bear arms.



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16 Sep 2007, 2:36 am

THANK YOU!! END OF ARGUMENT. NOW KILL THIS THREAD!


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