22 Sep 2021, 7:54 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Okay thanks. It's just it's very convoluted and I feel like something is missing, a certain piece of the puzzle that is the route cause of this whole p$%^ing contest between democrats and republicans. I mean I just don't why both sides have this whole "my d**k is bigger than your d**k" mentality.
It is an amazing political phenomenon in America.
I am not a spring chicken and haven't seen anything/k like it before anywhere in a democracy.
(Perhaps the Gough Whitlam era to some degree, during "The Dismissal" in Australia.)
The hyperpartisanship is staggering/irrational.
I attribute this to Trump and the woke generation.
ironpony wrote:
I mean where I live, in Canada, me and my gf recently went to go vote in the election and we both voted for different parties. But we agree to disagree and we are still in a relationship and it doesn't bother us. The same with my two friends who are also married and both voted different. But it seems most American couples would break up or separate over something like this I am guessing?
I wouldn't say most couples would break up, but yes, American politics is weird.
Does the woke generation go beyond generation Z though, or what is the woke generation in terms of age?
Well, correct me if I am wrong, but the term "woke" is a concept that has been embraced by many fairly recently.
If you prefer, substitute "culture" for "generation".
Aren't the only people still using the term woke conservative boomers in response to realizing they're out of touch?
Example: Stupid woke culture, all I did was insist on misgendering my grandkid repeatedly...
Correct me if I am wrong, but the term "woke" has been attributed to a person of colour relatively recently.
If "woke" isn't in vogue any longer, is something else being used?
BTW, Some use the term "boomer" as a pejorative.
I hope you aren't doing this here.
22 Sep 2021, 7:59 pm
22 Sep 2021, 8:04 pm
QuantumChemist wrote:
Jakki wrote:
But we got extra ones from Japan , whom were experimenting on Chinese, while they occupied a big piece of China. So am sceptically about poorly processed toods.
The Japanese Imperial Army experimented on more than just Chinese victims at unit 731. POWs from the Pacific side ended up there, along with some various neighboring nationalities (Koreans, Mongolians, Russians, etc.). Most were put to death in experiments. American soldiers harvested some of the information that they could from the site when it was taken over at the end of the war. Deals were made to continue some of the work during the cloud of the Cold War. We know about certain toxin limits (chemical and biological) in humans because of those experiments at unit 731 (and later on elsewhere). None the less, war crimes are still war crimes, even if you learn valuable information from them.
America is not innocent in conducting/condoning these issues during and after the war. I know more than most in that area because one of my great uncles was over there at the end of the war. He told me years later about his experiences during the occupation. He had nightmares of it for the rest of his life from what he saw.
But it isn't as if America exploited the black community through syphilis experiments, is it? <irony>
22 Sep 2021, 8:17 pm
Pepe wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
Jakki wrote:
But we got extra ones from Japan , whom were experimenting on Chinese, while they occupied a big piece of China. So am sceptically about poorly processed toods.
The Japanese Imperial Army experimented on more than just Chinese victims at unit 731. POWs from the Pacific side ended up there, along with some various neighboring nationalities (Koreans, Mongolians, Russians, etc.). Most were put to death in experiments. American soldiers harvested some of the information that they could from the site when it was taken over at the end of the war. Deals were made to continue some of the work during the cloud of the Cold War. We know about certain toxin limits (chemical and biological) in humans because of those experiments at unit 731 (and later on elsewhere). None the less, war crimes are still war crimes, even if you learn valuable information from them.
America is not innocent in conducting/condoning these issues during and after the war. I know more than most in that area because one of my great uncles was over there at the end of the war. He told me years later about his experiences during the occupation. He had nightmares of it for the rest of his life from what he saw.
But it isn't as if America exploited the black community through syphilis experiments, is it? <irony>
Yes, we did that. It is usually not covered in history classes much here, but sadly it did happen with the sanction of the American government. Same thing with infecting the native populations and killing off their food supply as a means of control. We also starved POWs during the Civil War (both sides), which gave a certain person ideas later on about dealing with people he did not like. We are a nation that tends to try to forget our dark parts of our past and remember only the parts that we want to. Sad, but true.
22 Sep 2021, 8:24 pm
QuantumChemist wrote:
Pepe wrote:
QuantumChemist wrote:
Jakki wrote:
But we got extra ones from Japan , whom were experimenting on Chinese, while they occupied a big piece of China. So am sceptically about poorly processed toods.
The Japanese Imperial Army experimented on more than just Chinese victims at unit 731. POWs from the Pacific side ended up there, along with some various neighboring nationalities (Koreans, Mongolians, Russians, etc.). Most were put to death in experiments. American soldiers harvested some of the information that they could from the site when it was taken over at the end of the war. Deals were made to continue some of the work during the cloud of the Cold War. We know about certain toxin limits (chemical and biological) in humans because of those experiments at unit 731 (and later on elsewhere). None the less, war crimes are still war crimes, even if you learn valuable information from them.
America is not innocent in conducting/condoning these issues during and after the war. I know more than most in that area because one of my great uncles was over there at the end of the war. He told me years later about his experiences during the occupation. He had nightmares of it for the rest of his life from what he saw.
But it isn't as if America exploited the black community through syphilis experiments, is it? <irony>
Yes, we did that. It is usually not covered in history classes much here, but sadly it did happen with the sanction of the American government. Same thing with infecting the native populations and killing off their food supply as a means of control. We also starved POWs during the Civil War (both sides), which gave a certain person ideas later on about dealing with people he did not like. We are a nation that tends to try to forget our dark parts of our past and remember only the parts that we want to. Sad, but true.
The syphilis experiment was hardly forgotten and the victims afterward were given free medical care for life. I don't know what happened to those running it but imo they should have been executed for crimes against humanity.
22 Sep 2021, 8:28 pm
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22 Sep 2021, 9:56 pm
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Okay thanks. It's just it's very convoluted and I feel like something is missing, a certain piece of the puzzle that is the route cause of this whole p$%^ing contest between democrats and republicans. I mean I just don't why both sides have this whole "my d**k is bigger than your d**k" mentality.
It is an amazing political phenomenon in America.
I am not a spring chicken and haven't seen anything/k like it before anywhere in a democracy.
(Perhaps the Gough Whitlam era to some degree, during "The Dismissal" in Australia.)
The hyperpartisanship is staggering/irrational.
I attribute this to Trump and the woke generation.
ironpony wrote:
I mean where I live, in Canada, me and my gf recently went to go vote in the election and we both voted for different parties. But we agree to disagree and we are still in a relationship and it doesn't bother us. The same with my two friends who are also married and both voted different. But it seems most American couples would break up or separate over something like this I am guessing?
I wouldn't say most couples would break up, but yes, American politics is weird.
Does the woke generation go beyond generation Z though, or what is the woke generation in terms of age?
Well, correct me if I am wrong, but the term "woke" is a concept that has been embraced by many fairly recently.
If you prefer, substitute "culture" for "generation".
Aren't the only people still using the term woke conservative boomers in response to realizing they're out of touch?
Example: Stupid woke culture, all I did was insist on misgendering my grandkid repeatedly...
Correct me if I am wrong, but the term "woke" has been attributed to a person of colour relatively recently.
If "woke" isn't in vogue any longer, is something else being used?
BTW, Some use the term "boomer" as a pejorative.
I hope you aren't doing this here.
How many years ago was it when the kids were still saying woke? Now it's just people like Tucker Carlson using it as a synonym for what they used to call political correctness but mostly amounts to not being able to use slurs and having to respect other people's basic dignity.
A bunch of overlapping and intersectional social justice movements don't need a blanket term to refer to treating others with decency and respect. It's much more useful to people trying to attack or discredit these people to have a label to lump them all together under, so no, as far as I know the term hasn't been replaced. It was just a slang term that caught on beyond the people who coined it, which led to the term losing currency and so far not being replaced.
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