School shooting in CT

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So you start by announcing that broadcasters and the other ones are agenda pushers, only to site two of them as your citation.

One of your sources is none other than an conservative site, which obviously, will show pro-gun bias.

Starting to see a pattern here...

Fox must really have the left on the run. A day doesn't go by when one of them does't go off on a tangent over fox.
MSNBC is hysterically liberal so I simply don't watch it.

I don't trust any news services, but if they post a video showing a father of a victim talking, that'd be relevant to this thread, right? I doubt they'd edit the video enough so it's inaccurate. I trust the one you posted the same as the one I did.

I don't agree that people should have interrupted the individual you showed (they should all get their time to talk without interruption).

CNN and MSNBC probably have it on theirs -- I just chose the first two from Google at random.

(I ain't a Conservative, so you know. I'm not "pro-gun" either. I'm pro-freedom across the board.)

I still wonder how much stigma and restrictions against people with a mental disorder will come from this when they release all they know on Adam Lanza (I can see people with Asperger's to be hit hard, just as those with Schizophrenia have had to put up with for such a long time -- it'll be worst though, as if they find some connection between certain disorders and massacres, and they'll be looking for all their worth, no matter how small, expect to be seen as guilty first. If the US goes this way ("land of the free"), I bet other countries will look to the same).

So chum, what's so wrong with liberalism? JFK says it best really:

" John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:[9][10]

...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'. "

Are you opposed to that? As a humanitarian, I completely agree with what he says.
And to top it off, Keynesian economics may, may turn out to save the world from economic annihilation.

I'd be a liberal -- it's progressive, and it's synonymous with freedom and liberty, as well as universal compassion (help the sick and infirm, try to rehabilitate the "bad", and whatnot).

Gay marriage, equal rights for all, freedom to own weapons (:)), freedom for all, really, as long as one isn't harming others with their freedom. Whilst people ascribe that to libertarianism, that's different altogether.

It's sad that the term liberal is seen as a "bad' thing, like equating it to the terrible communist regimes of the past (and the other side being seen as the fascist ones).

But then, people have many definitions on these things. The only education I got on such was that liberals assume people are good people, so liberty, and socialists see people as inherently bad, so restrictions! I'd have to fall in the former, as I've found most people to be good.

i listened to the you tube video and i did not hear at anytime any decent, heckling or mocking.at one point there were some voices in the background but i could not hear specific words.i could have been the sound and or video quality,but i did not hear any even response to his statements

^ There was a very poorly-judged cut and I find it difficult to view such a cut as not being made to make some point other than what occurred at the meeting - the video should have included all of the exchange which resulted in Mr. Heslin looking round.

As it is, the cut (just after 00:45) actually removes some of the audio and cuts in on some unclear voices, with one one clear voice saying "... shall not be infringed".
So while it appears to be heckling on behalf of gun owners, it's impossible to be sure based on what audio there is. That "shall not be infringed" comment appears to have been thrown at someone else who was speaking so it doesn't seem clear to me that Mr. Heslin was being heckled, and it looked more like an argument between other people at the meeting.

Hmm. Indeed it is a poorly edited clip.

Sorry about that, (Take note other users, an apology isn't so difficult to type up when warranted, still waiting for those owed to be paid)

My thoughts on the matter do not change, however.

thats cool,likely just bad video and thats not your fault.i will concede the point that he was heckled

Are you guys talking about this video?

http://www.examiner.com/article/msnbc-caught-faking-video-of-sandy-hook-father-being-heckled

No - this one, a few posts back: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5190373.html#5190373
Yours is a video of the same event with the part the previous video abruptly cuts to occurring at about 15:32.

It becomes clear that, although he wasn't being heckled while speaking, it's a crying shame that after 15 minutes of an impassioned statement from a father, grieving his dead child and trying to find some answers and a middle ground, he discovers that the response to his question - delivered more as a rhetorical than a formal question - is from some dull, wooden-headed yahoos shouting about keeping their toys.

It seems that some people really do not give a flying s**t about the feelings of others and would rather try to shout someone down - even when it's the father of one of the victims.

Emotionalism DOES NOT EXCUSE OR JUSTIFY calls for oppression.

Far from it, if you can't appeal to reason then you have no business advocating anything.

It's all so easy when it's not your kid that was shot, isn't it?

Those idiots didn't even have the decency to wait until the meeting was over before using their emotions to try and suppress what he was trying to say.
That behaviour was shameful, and says plenty about the type of people doing the shouting.

There you go, thinking that the right thing is the easy thing.

I sometimes wonder if you ever bother reading what you write.
You've certainly not bothered reading what I wrote.