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02 Feb 2016, 8:40 pm

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I'm getting sick to death of PC culture and the leftist media...


You sound like a totally reasonable, middle-of-the-road sort of guy. :lol:



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02 Feb 2016, 10:48 pm

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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.



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02 Feb 2016, 11:21 pm

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Men have higher suicide rates due to not having a support system.

That is an incomplete statement. Men have a higher rate of 'successful' suicides because they do things like blowing their brains out or stepping in front of trains. Women *attempt* suicide more, but tend to use 'tidier' methods like pills or bleeding themselves into a sink, which take longer and are therefore more likely to be caught and intervened in, and give them a chance to change their minds and ask for help.
So in a sense male suicide is funny and mens lives dont matter, and womens lives do because women are superior to men and only womens lives matter, if a male commits suicide celebrate and dance upon his grave because men are all bad! Sorry i did not succeed in committing suicide but people told me my life matters for some reason even though my abusive ex said it was not and encouraged me to commit suicide and laughed about it, her life matters more than mine because im a man and shes a woman, shes a hero!


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02 Feb 2016, 11:42 pm

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So in a sense male suicide is funny and mens lives dont matter, and womens lives do because women are superior to men and only womens lives matter, if a male commits suicide celebrate and dance upon his grave because men are all bad! Sorry i did not succeed in committing suicide but people told me my life matters for some reason even though my abusive ex said it was not and encouraged me to commit suicide and laughed about it, her life matters more than mine because im a man and shes a woman, shes a hero!
sounds like your problem is an abusive ex, not radfems.



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03 Feb 2016, 5:16 pm

Fugu wrote:
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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.



You're correct. Because people don't actually want egalitarianism. And whodathunk?! Women are flawed, imperfect human beings just like men and not the saintly creatures that liberal idealists and other chivalrous imbeciles make them out to be.

A lot of women don't truly believe in equality and no matter what they may say, gender equality isn't something they actually want! They want society to favor their sex. Because what you oblivious to is how feminism has not only changed over time, but has fragmented into competing schools of thought. Clearly you don't know anything about it but you're trying to be oppositional....carry on!



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03 Feb 2016, 5:57 pm

Fugu wrote:
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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.


There's something suspicious and cynical in the recent espousing - well, throwing around - of 'egalitarianism' or 'equalitarianism', what with it being the reactionary move against certain feminist and PoC originated arguments and protests it is.


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03 Feb 2016, 6:12 pm

wilburforce wrote:
TheExodus wrote:
I'm getting sick to death of PC culture and the leftist media...


You sound like a totally reasonable, middle-of-the-road sort of guy. :lol:


Thank you for noticing. Critical thinking is so seldom seen these days. 8)

Fugu wrote:
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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.


You're not making any sense. How can an ideology not exist?

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Fugu wrote:
TheExodus wrote:
I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.



You're correct. Because people don't actually want egalitarianism. And whodathunk?! Women are flawed, imperfect human beings just like men and not the saintly creatures that liberal idealists and other chivalrous imbeciles make them out to be.

A lot of women don't truly believe in equality and no matter what they may say, gender equality isn't something they actually want! They want society to favor their sex. Because what you oblivious to is how feminism has not only changed over time, but has fragmented into competing schools of thought. Clearly you don't know anything about it but you're trying to be oppositional....carry on!


This. The amount of times I have heard, tiresomely, that Feminism is supposed to be for equality. Yet all Feminists seem to do these days is moan about first world issues, act offended about petty little problems, and claim that being a white male is some kind of sin. I do declare, with no hint of irony, it is becoming a cult. George Orwell was about 32 years off the mark, it would seem.


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03 Feb 2016, 6:17 pm

TheExodus wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
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I'm getting sick to death of PC culture and the leftist media...


You sound like a totally reasonable, middle-of-the-road sort of guy. :lol:


Thank you for noticing. Critical thinking is so seldom seen these days. 8)


I really should know better, when posting on an autism forum, to include sarcasm tags. My bad! :)



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03 Feb 2016, 8:21 pm

wilburforce wrote:
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wilburforce wrote:
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I'm getting sick to death of PC culture and the leftist media...


You sound like a totally reasonable, middle-of-the-road sort of guy. :lol:


Thank you for noticing. Critical thinking is so seldom seen these days. 8)


I really should know better, when posting on an autism forum, to include sarcasm tags. My bad! :)


Yeah, well, we all make mistakes. Two, in your case. :lol:


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03 Feb 2016, 8:23 pm

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Fugu wrote:
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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.


There's something suspicious and cynical in the recent espousing - well, throwing around - of 'egalitarianism' or 'equalitarianism', what with it being the reactionary move against certain feminist and PoC originated arguments and protests it is.


That's because modern day Feminism is just a female supremacy cult, whereas egalitarianism would actually want to make a difference to everybody.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:08 pm

TheExodus wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
TheExodus wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
TheExodus wrote:
I'm getting sick to death of PC culture and the leftist media...


You sound like a totally reasonable, middle-of-the-road sort of guy. :lol:


Thank you for noticing. Critical thinking is so seldom seen these days. 8)


I really should know better, when posting on an autism forum, to include sarcasm tags. My bad! :)


Yeah, well, we all make mistakes. Two, in your case. :lol:


I'm just a pile of f***-ups. You, however, sound like you would be a blast at parties. You must be a very popular guy. :thumleft:



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04 Feb 2016, 1:31 am

Fugu wrote:
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So in a sense male suicide is funny and mens lives dont matter, and womens lives do because women are superior to men and only womens lives matter, if a male commits suicide celebrate and dance upon his grave because men are all bad! Sorry i did not succeed in committing suicide but people told me my life matters for some reason even though my abusive ex said it was not and encouraged me to commit suicide and laughed about it, her life matters more than mine because im a man and shes a woman, shes a hero!
sounds like your problem is an abusive ex, not radfems.
Sorry i did kinda get triggered there, but radfems would consider my abusive ex as a hero they encourage this kinda thing, they love men being abused and seeing them commit suicide, they embrace it they have no sympathy they find it funny, to them men are evil and when a man commits suicide they find it funny and celebrate!


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04 Feb 2016, 1:31 am

Fugu wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
So in a sense male suicide is funny and mens lives dont matter, and womens lives do because women are superior to men and only womens lives matter, if a male commits suicide celebrate and dance upon his grave because men are all bad! Sorry i did not succeed in committing suicide but people told me my life matters for some reason even though my abusive ex said it was not and encouraged me to commit suicide and laughed about it, her life matters more than mine because im a man and shes a woman, shes a hero!
sounds like your problem is an abusive ex, not radfems.
Sorry i did kinda get triggered there, but radfems would consider my abusive ex as a hero they encourage this kinda thing, they love men being abused and seeing them commit suicide, they embrace it they have no sympathy they find it funny, to them men are evil and when a man commits suicide they find it funny and celebrate!


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04 Feb 2016, 1:56 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Fugu wrote:
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So in a sense male suicide is funny and mens lives dont matter, and womens lives do because women are superior to men and only womens lives matter, if a male commits suicide celebrate and dance upon his grave because men are all bad! Sorry i did not succeed in committing suicide but people told me my life matters for some reason even though my abusive ex said it was not and encouraged me to commit suicide and laughed about it, her life matters more than mine because im a man and shes a woman, shes a hero!
sounds like your problem is an abusive ex, not radfems.
Sorry i did kinda get triggered there, but radfems would consider my abusive ex as a hero they encourage this kinda thing, they love men being abused and seeing them commit suicide, they embrace it they have no sympathy they find it funny, to them men are evil and when a man commits suicide they find it funny and celebrate!


And how do you know? Did you survey every feminist to derive, rejected the null hypothesis, and determined that there is indeed a correlation between increased femininity and misandry?


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04 Feb 2016, 6:47 am

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I don't see what's so wrong with egalitarianism. :roll:
it doesn't exist yet though.


There's something suspicious and cynical in the recent espousing - well, throwing around - of 'egalitarianism' or 'equalitarianism', what with it being the reactionary move against certain feminist and PoC originated arguments and protests it is.


That's because modern day Feminism is just a female supremacy cult, whereas egalitarianism would actually want to make a difference to everybody.


1. No it isn't. From my general point of view with everything, summed up as 'I'm not sure we've thought about this enough', I can see issues with it. But by and large its coming from the right place.

2. I'm a socialist. Egalitarianism ftw! But I also recognise the various histories and institutional inclinations against women, and people of colour, etc.

3. You miss my point, which is that this 'egalitarianism', which always seems vaguely defined at best, has only become popular of late as it is a reactionary move against feminist and anti-racist arguments and campaigns. Had those campaigns not existed, I very much doubt we'd have heard a peep on the matter from all the 'egalitarians' who have recently sprung up.


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04 Feb 2016, 10:10 am

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3. You miss my point, which is that this 'egalitarianism', which always seems vaguely defined at best, has only become popular of late as it is a reactionary move against feminist and anti-racist arguments and campaigns. Had those campaigns not existed, I very much doubt we'd have heard a peep on the matter from all the 'egalitarians' who have recently sprung up.


A problem that more than likely arose from the feminist tendency towards dichotomies of the "if you believe in equality you are a feminist" or "if you're not a sexist, then you are a feminist" flavour. Statements which are sort of like saying "unless you are a christian, you think murder is okay". People dislike having labels put on them, especially labels with the amount of added baggage that feminism has. "Egalitarian" (from the french "égal") has the added benefit of being gender-neutral, as befits a term indicating a belief in equality. And you're right, a few years ago I didn't know the term existed. But now I do have a term for my non-feminist belief in equality. Whats wrong with that?


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