Is it WRONG to own guns, rifles, swords, knives, etc.?

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How can you soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys?

^ Another comment from the peanut gallery.

You're delusional

Piss off.

i stand by all my comments regarding the topic; I can't help it if the poll shows there are only 8 people with brains in this forum. Obviously the NRA have indoctrinated the rest into their fellowship. Now all we need to do is wait for WW3 and they can all march off as cannon fodder. Actually, why aren't they in Iraq now? Or are they all loose cannons that the army has declared 4F.

oh dear oh dear (shakes head slowly).

Am I stepping on your obsession/special interest ?

No. I am just talking common sense if only you other people would realise it.

I have argued a lot on this topic and the one thing I have learned is that you can never change the opinion of anti gun people. IMHO you are arguing with emotion and are blind to the facts.

Because you and I are too far apart on this issue, I think its pointless arguing. I will not return to this topic for a while. I still think you are delusional (at least as far as this topic goes).

So you came out of the closet and joined the loony gun lobby that caused the whole problem in the first place? Why doesn't that surprise me...

Sporting shooters have no real need to own weapons. macho BS that today's society could do without.

Hunting is for morons who think shooting defenceless animals to be the height of hilarity. More macho BS.

People carrying guns in suburbia have no right to be pseudo-police, and all they are practicing is a form of penis envy that will get them killed. if you don't trust the cops, then I'm afraid you should probably be locked up too, because your more dangerous than the people supposedly threatening you. Even more macho BS.

Police and the military are the only ones ENTITLED to carry weapons, to protect society from imbeciles like you who would try to take over the country from the government you elected.

If you want to fire a weapon, join the army. If you are 4F because of mental issues, that is more proof why you should never be let loose in public with anything more than a soft cushion.

Now take your medication and lie down.

Anything can be abused. I have never been shot (other than a
bb gun) , never shot anybody , never committed a crime with a gun(own atleast 2 guns since 1989). But some body in car hit me on my bike and I flipped my SUV driving recklessly on a dirt road.

Are people missing the point here or something?

A) Already crushed the argument that private gun ownership defends the citizenry against the machinations of corrupt government. It doesn and it cant, unless you can buy field pieces and armour on a massive scale. Handguns dont stop tanks. Nor do semi-autos.

B) There are plenty of countries worldwide that DONT have private gun ownership, and seem to manage fairly well. There are quite a few that DO.. but none of them seem so very obsessive about keeping them, or get so irate about the thought of having them taken away. What is it about americans that drives them into this frenzy of irritation and angst about it?

There are countries in europe where EVERYONE has a gun.. gun crime is low, and you never hear them frothing about their rights to keep them.

Think hard.. what do you ACTUALLY need them for, really? (I know you're all going to shout self defence, but as I said, plenty of places dont have private guns, and do reasonably well. We dont even have armed coppers, and our crime rates arent all that different to anywhere elses.)

My only issue with that is that I'm interested in guns, and consider them collectible in some cases (like antique swords etc). It just disturbs me how prevalent the "you can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers" attitude is across the pond. Fine, keep them if you must, but you dont have to be so angry about it. Thats surely the wrong mindset for responsible weapons use?

Bravo, my British friend!

Eight sane people amongst 36 NRA indoctrinated people who would rather carry some poor bugger's blood on their hands because of some misguided loyalty to an antiquated document. I know I suggested they all join the army, and I was probably correct in saying they were 4F due to mental instability. Even if they were able to enlist, they would be more of a liability than the enemy, because they would not only get themselves killed, but their trigger-happy attitude would wipe out the rest of their battalion. If only these people would take up paintball-skirmish, it would solve the whole problem. Or maybe pillow-fights during sleepovers...

Same applies to automobile ownership. I nolonger own a car. Too dangerous, costly , harmfull to the enviroment, etc.

The_chosen_one wrote;

Entitled? Maybe in that country of yours but not in MINE. I have the right to as a citizen. Entitlements and rights are totally different.

Your other weak arguments and naïve opinions on people that are armed pretending to be police, the comments about hunting and sport shooting being sick and only a macho thing, gun owners being unable to join the military because we’re all “4F”, and whatever else, I’m not going to take the time to go into all of it. It should be obvious to anyone with a healthy and sound mind that you’re mentally ill.

People like you and the others here that have exposed their mental weaknesses and twisted values in this thread are so far off your rockers that it's actually hilarious. In a sad way but hilarious none the less. It makes me grateful that I still have command of my mental faculties.

As far as I’m concerned this is a closed matter and I’m done with it. I can’t really say that you anti gun people have lost the argument because there really is no argument here. Only ill-founded statistics and misguided emotions as opposed to OUR logic which has stood the test of time and will continue to forever.

Difference being that cars and 4WDs are designed to move people from one location to the other, and weren't designed to kill. Guns and firearms only have one purpose, and that is to kill. You load them, fire them and kill something, more than likely living organisms such as birds, deer humans.... Now while there are deaths from car accidents, they are more than likely accidents. Deaths from guns are on purpose, because when you point the thing at someone, they WILL die. No ifs, no buts. If you must own one, pull out the trigger mechanism and the firing pin, store the gun in a glass case, and THROW THE REST INTO THE BAY! The only safe gun is a disabled gun, but the ultimate safe gun would be none at all.

It seems to me, Raptor, and the rest of you as*holes who want to kill yourselves that by calling those who disagree with your poxy attitude and stance should seriously get treatment for YOUR mental deficiencies. Do you seriously believe the BS you keep spouting? Honestly, loose cannons and jerks like you are a total liability to your whole society, not just the military. Thank Christ I am over the other side of the Pacific, here I feel safe. Over there, I'd need a suit of armour and a kevlar vest just to go to the letterbox. Your mentality has shown this, and that is scary for everyone.

The real preventable risk is replacing cars with public transport.

Wow, I am so impressed with your argumentation, such wit, such a depth, such strong logic and reasoning. I ... I ... just can't find the words ....