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And I would be wary of the Hemp World Order as well.
Possibly, it is a fine and wonderful thing.. but I've never yet met anyone pro-hemp who wasn't also out of their gourd half the time, or living in a VW bus and stealing pegs, listening to the Levellers , and generally being useless.
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Certainly I prefer Putin and Bush having a nice chat over a cup of tea than sabre-rattling via embassy dispatch and the media.
The world would almost be a better place if it were true, wouldnt it?
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the Bilderburgers, G8, WTO, etc say otherwise!
If its nineties its a a bit of an Old World Order, is it not? Or a Classic World Order, like a classic car? [/quote]
hmm. but they are trying to implement a new world by various ways, guiding policies, etc. Hence a NEW World Order
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To be fair, the existence of all these organisations makes perfect sense. A summit of the most powerful nations leaders, arguing about how to fix this and that? An organisation encouraging global trade? Even rich old money having its fingers in all the pies. The all follow as being perfectly sensible ideas for this era.
you mean the rich white man trying to screw us all over economically via exploitation
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Certainly I prefer Putin and Bush having a nice chat over a cup of tea than sabre-rattling via embassy dispatch and the media.
They can use the UN then
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
And no, street gangs are f*****g criminals looking for a way out of this sh***y system. They don't want to be governed, but they are completely unrelated to real 'tribes'
it's the same logic actually; groups that form for self-defense and end up in wars with other groups of similar sizes (often).
Arguably 'nation' is a better analogy; as many of them do use that term (see the 'Folk Nation' as an example)
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
.. first of all tribes vote the leaders of their own tribes, pretty cut and dry, no politics involved.. i doubt they campaign and spread lies to become a chief.. because unlike civilized societies, they will overthrow their chief (mutiny them) if they did something outrageous..
Why do you think no politics were involved? If you have Policy and Polity (people), you have Politics. Sometimes these groups were relatively egalitarian and the politics was good, sometime not so much. The same with small town democracy - sometimes the mayor and police chief are decent folks, sometimes they are as*holes.
Haliphron wrote:
Warsie wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
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There is NO New World Order! Thats just dated 90s conspiracy bullshit.
There is NO New World Order! Thats just dated 90s conspiracy bullshit.
the Bilderburgers, G8, WTO, etc say otherwise!
The Bilderbergs have been around Before the NWO conspiracy theory bub!
Are you bloody ret*d..?
The Bilderburgs can be from the 1600's and it wouldn't make one shred of difference..
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And no, street gangs are f***ing criminals looking for a way out of this sh***y system. They don't want to be governed, but they are completely unrelated to real 'tribes'
People have Instincts thankyouverymuch. And people on the bottom of the social ladder have pretty much NO incentive to obey the law because the ultimate purpose of the law is to maintain the social order which places them at the Bottom. Since they have nothing to gain from being lawful, they follow their instincts and act out. And guess what? I WORKS! You can make a
Shitload of money selling addictive drugs no matter how poor and uneducated you are. Futhermore, as pointed out repeatedly in the Love & Dating section, women LOVE badboys. Thats why young men who grow in povery and become gansta'-so they can get money and chicks. Whenver young men are either taken out of civilization for some extended period of time OR have no incentive to be "civilized" , gang violence is EXACTLY what they do!The less external order you have in a culture the more inclined (young)men are to use violence to solve problems and compete for status and women.
Ohhh, I see. LOL.. no, not all girls LOVE badboys.. that's a cultural fad.. do you know what a cultural fad is?.. it's when people mold their tastes around what is culturally accepted.. people in different countries and tribes around the world find different things to be sexy.. ive heard of one place where fat women are considered more attractive.. so your statement doesn't hold any water..
This CULTURE is wrong... and it's not the only CULTURE that is wrong... s**t happens, but that doesn't mean you keep going along with it just because mistakes have happened elsewhere as well.. this one is by far the worst.
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And I would be wary of the Hemp World Order as well.
Possibly, it is a fine and wonderful thing.. but I've never yet met anyone pro-hemp who wasn't also out of their gourd half the time, or living in a VW bus and stealing pegs, listening to the Levellers , and generally being useless.
Possibly, it is a fine and wonderful thing.. but I've never yet met anyone pro-hemp who wasn't also out of their gourd half the time, or living in a VW bus and stealing pegs, listening to the Levellers , and generally being useless.
Hemp doesn't = stoners... Hemp = economical answers to millions of problems.. plastic, medicine, food, engine oil, animal food, clothing... it solves a lot of fucking problems.. if you're stuck on the whole marijuana thing and think it's bad then you're living in a brainwashed little world.. pretty much anything you get on the streets is BAD for you.. it's not grown right and it is laced with chemicals, unclean.. so your experiences are irrelevant, but we aren't even talking about smoking it.. we're talking about growing HEMP, and using it to solve problems.
I'm pro hemp, and im not any of those things you described you stereotypical manipulator.. look up Hemp seeds, and why everyone should be eating them..
or here
http://www.hempfood.ca/
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
.. first of all tribes vote the leaders of their own tribes, pretty cut and dry, no politics involved.. i doubt they campaign and spread lies to become a chief.. because unlike civilized societies, they will overthrow their chief (mutiny them) if they did something outrageous..
Why do you think no politics were involved? If you have Policy and Polity (people), you have Politics. Sometimes these groups were relatively egalitarian and the politics was good, sometime not so much. The same with small town democracy - sometimes the mayor and police chief are decent folks, sometimes they are as*holes.
Politics of our global modern culture take on a very different form... they are not the same thing.. you can call them the same thing if you want to, but they are worlds apart
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Haliphron wrote:
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And no, street gangs are f***ing criminals looking for a way out of this sh***y system. They don't want to be governed, but they are completely unrelated to real 'tribes'
People have Instincts thankyouverymuch. And people on the bottom of the social ladder have pretty much NO incentive to obey the law because the ultimate purpose of the law is to maintain the social order which places them at the Bottom. Since they have nothing to gain from being lawful, they follow their instincts and act out. And guess what? I WORKS! You can make a
Shitload of money selling addictive drugs no matter how poor and uneducated you are. Futhermore, as pointed out repeatedly in the Love & Dating section, women LOVE badboys. Thats why young men who grow in povery and become gansta'-so they can get money and chicks. Whenver young men are either taken out of civilization for some extended period of time OR have no incentive to be "civilized" , gang violence is EXACTLY what they do!The less external order you have in a culture the more inclined (young)men are to use violence to solve problems and compete for status and women.
Ohhh, I see. LOL.. no, not all girls LOVE badboys.. that's a cultural fad.. do you know what a cultural fad is?.. it's when people mold their tastes around what is culturally accepted.. people in different countries and tribes around the world find different things to be sexy.. ive heard of one place where fat women are considered more attractive.. so your statement doesn't hold any water..
This CULTURE is wrong... and it's not the only CULTURE that is wrong... sh** happens, but that doesn't mean you keep going along with it just because mistakes have happened elsewhere as well.. this one is by far the worst.
More naive mid-20th century idealistic hippie BS my friend. But you dont care, do you?
If it makes you happy you'll believe it, no matter how far removed from reality it is. We as a species are simply NOT going back to the stone age or the "simple life". Its just not gonna happen; Deal with it. What men and women from different cultures look for in a mate(in the cultures where they HAVE a choice-many "simpler" cultures still have arranged marriages)has been studies by anthropologists for decades and guess what? We ALL look for the SAME set of things no matter what culture we're born into because we're ALL HUMAN!
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
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And no, street gangs are f***ing criminals looking for a way out of this sh***y system. They don't want to be governed, but they are completely unrelated to real 'tribes'
People have Instincts thankyouverymuch. And people on the bottom of the social ladder have pretty much NO incentive to obey the law because the ultimate purpose of the law is to maintain the social order which places them at the Bottom. Since they have nothing to gain from being lawful, they follow their instincts and act out. And guess what? I WORKS! You can make a
Shitload of money selling addictive drugs no matter how poor and uneducated you are. Futhermore, as pointed out repeatedly in the Love & Dating section, women LOVE badboys. Thats why young men who grow in povery and become gansta'-so they can get money and chicks. Whenver young men are either taken out of civilization for some extended period of time OR have no incentive to be "civilized" , gang violence is EXACTLY what they do!The less external order you have in a culture the more inclined (young)men are to use violence to solve problems and compete for status and women.
Ohhh, I see. LOL.. no, not all girls LOVE badboys.. that's a cultural fad.. do you know what a cultural fad is?.. it's when people mold their tastes around what is culturally accepted.. people in different countries and tribes around the world find different things to be sexy.. ive heard of one place where fat women are considered more attractive.. so your statement doesn't hold any water..
This CULTURE is wrong... and it's not the only CULTURE that is wrong... sh** happens, but that doesn't mean you keep going along with it just because mistakes have happened elsewhere as well.. this one is by far the worst.
More naive mid-20th century idealistic hippie BS my friend. But you dont care, do you?
If it makes you happy you'll believe it, no matter how far removed from reality it is. We as a species are simply NOT going back to the stone age or the "simple life". Its just not gonna happen; Deal with it.
I Said a Million and a half times i dont want that, are you blind? I said our culture is not the optimum way of living, and we can do much much better... live in harmony... not in the jungle, dirt or cement. And not in a toxic civilization of slavery..
I'm not much of an idealist, but I know that hemp is a starting point if we all grew it.
But we have to overthrow the current government in order to make a better world, as it says in the declaration of independance we have the right to overthrow the government if it becomes ill/corrupt, which they are now CENSORING and have been for a long time.. they censor the important parts out of that written work in most places.
Maybe as soon as you deal with reality we can have a serious conversation but you turn it in to a joke because you can't think for yourself you mindless drone.
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Hemp doesn't = stoners... Hemp = economical answers to millions of problems.. plastic, medicine, food, engine oil, animal food, clothing... it solves a lot of fucking problems.. if you're stuck on the whole marijuana thing and think it's bad then you're living in a brainwashed little world.. pretty much anything you get on the streets is BAD for you.. it's not grown right and it is laced with chemicals, unclean.. so your experiences are irrelevant, but we aren't even talking about smoking it.. we're talking about growing HEMP, and using it to solve problems.
Kenaf is generally superior to hemp.
I don't soil my lungs with smoke and tar of any kind, so I can't comment on the effects of smoking cannabis.
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ShawnWilliam wrote:
Ohhh, I see. LOL.. no, not all girls LOVE badboys.. that's a cultural fad.. do you know what a cultural fad is?.. it's when people mold their tastes around what is culturally accepted.. people in different countries and tribes around the world find different things to be sexy.. ive heard of one place where fat women are considered more attractive.. so your statement doesn't hold any water..
Partially true, but women's taste in men varies with their genetics, and with their menstrual cycle. Culture can have an effect, but so does biology.
ShawnWilliam wrote:
I'm not much of an idealist, but I know that hemp is a starting point if we all grew it.
Ramie is better - it beats linen, and is commercially produced today.
Kudzu is better - the fibers are stronger, softer, and more lusterous. Kudzu doesn't need nitrogen fertilizer. The roots are a good source of starch and medicine. And it is legal now.