Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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Don't pretend to care about women just so you can get laid.




Besides......Even in the new Vaginarchy, studly alpha male douchebags will STILL be getting all the women and obsequious nice guys like you will no choice but to become de facto homosexuals if you wish to have intercourse with anyone besides yourselves.

except... no. Vigilans gets laid, so you don't know what you're talking about. he is a nice guy AND he has no trouble with getting women. imagine that!

What makes you so certain that women are powerless to change it? There are already american women who have managed to figure out how to negotiate salaries and get paid what they deserve.

No, they won't.

because some of it is due to flat-out discrimination. other parts are due to inadequate child care etc. these are not things that women have the power to singlehandedly change (though they try)

Because the only reason I support equality is so I can get imagination secks from women I'm never going to meet on the internets

I don't "pretend" to care, I actually do care. I also have no trouble with women, other than fun trouble, so try again

It doesn't seem to me you are very experienced

sorry but these figures are easily rigged.

there seems to be a lot of use of median figures. anybody can rig that in favour of women.

if a man works 40 hours week doing job X and a woman works 40 hours a week doing job X then they both get the same income.

if a man works 1 year doing job X and has 2 weeks holiday and earns 20K then the same applies to women.

if a man works 1 year doing job X and has 2 weeks holiday and earns 20K and the woman works the same job but has 3 months off to have baby then she earns less. why should she be paid to not do work. now multiply that by 10 men and ten women and she how the median figure becomes warped.

figures are ALWAYS rigged in favour of the issue at hand.

That's probably because you're neurotypical(and most likely have good social skills which in turn makes it easy to get along with women). But since you're taking my facetious remark oh-so-srsly, I can tell you quite honestly that being servile to our "new feminine overlords" is not going to make them sleep with you! Which is what your nested post implied. Hate to break it to ya, but there are PUH-LEN-TY of misogynist and sexist men who have no trouble getting laid. [What enables someone to get laid is being sexually attractive. How attractive you are to others quite often depends on things that have little or nothing to do with your behavior] So if you were hoping to manipulate me into towing the feminist party line by promising some great reward if I do, it aint gonna work.


Lastly, there is really nothing I posted ITT for one to conclude that I don't believe in gender equality. But I have a healthy dose of skepticism and recognize that people quite often DON'T live up to their professed ideals. Even if they are feminists.

Wrong



I would say it is the opposite based on your following statement



That post was clearly a joke, smart guy



Actually, your attitude and resulting behavior does play a large part in how attractive you are to others, which is why misogynistic males are not usually capable successful relationships. Anyone with a dick can get laid, to actually gain a woman's trust and companionship and to know her intimately is what I consider worthy



I didn't say anything about your beliefs, I defended my own when you referred to me as a "male feminist sycophant". You are a disingenuous individual.

It's important to keep in mind that sexism(towards women) and misogyny are Not the same thing! Many feminists frequently confuse the 2. Misogyny is hatred towards women. Sexism(in this context)is very much the belief that women are inferior and less capable than men.

I personally have had a lot of problems IRL getting along with (NT)women and while I won't go into detail here, I will say that many many of them have treated me poorly for being socially inept. So the reason I'm not much a feminist isn't because I lack respect for women, it's that I lack sympathy for women AS A WHOLE. But I do not hate all women and have no trouble accepting women as individuals.

Well, I agree, but while one can be sexist without necessarily being misogynist, misogyny definitely involves sexism... If you go back to a time where sexism was much more accepted, I think misogyny itself was probably less prevalent, since women were "in their accorded place" in that paradigm



I've been treated poorly by women, too. In my case I seem to get on with them better than I do with most males, or at least, it was that way for me for much of my life. I have been treated extremely poorly by a few French people in my life, but that has not engendered within me an unwillingness to sympathize with French people



What?!

You've been treated badly by women, ergo you lost sympathy for women.

But chances are you've been treated badly by men as well.

The problem with sexism is this:
https://xkcd.com/385/

To consider the other gender as alien and as a uniform group rather than as fellow human beings who happen to have a different chromosome.

Wanna know something funny about girls? There are as many different kinds of them as there are different kinds of boys.

the Canadian government is not rigging numbers. and their results are verifiable but checking out studies that have been done by other agencies.

what you are telling me is that you simply will not believe credible sources because they don't fit your own flawed conclusions, so i'd say that any further discussion with you is pointless.

What are you talking about, Statistics Canada is out to suppress the truth about how much women make, in order to accomplish their agenda of lowering Canada's standards on the international stage. It makes complete and total sense

let's keep the actual sexism and personal insults out of the thread, please, or it will be locked. thank you.

EDIT: i should add that i removed a bunch of unacceptable posts.

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