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18 Apr 2016, 2:52 pm

No matter what, the full potential of humanity is being policed. Ugh... :|

I'm thinking the current state currency in the U.S has a lot to do with it.


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18 Apr 2016, 2:54 pm

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No matter what, the full potential of humanity is being policed. Ugh... :| I'm thinking the current state currency in the U.S has a lot to do with it.

can you tell me more about how the currency is influencing this?



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18 Apr 2016, 4:36 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:


Maybe there's a conspiracy of alien planets preventing this, so we humans can't spread our diseased behavior to the stars.
I have long thought there must be some kind of quarantine going on, keeping us down on planet, I mean why else have we not been back to the moon?


I recall a scifi-horror movie - can't recall it's name - about the real reason why we never returned to the moon is because it's really not uninhabited, but has parasitic creatures disguised as rocks living on the moon's dark side.


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18 Apr 2016, 4:48 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:


Maybe there's a conspiracy of alien planets preventing this, so we humans can't spread our diseased behavior to the stars.
I have long thought there must be some kind of quarantine going on, keeping us down on planet, I mean why else have we not been back to the moon?


I recall a scifi-horror movie - can't recall it's name - about the real reason why we never returned to the moon is because it's really not uninhabited, but has parasitic creatures disguised as rocks living on the moon's dark side.
lessee..... :chin: there were the rock creatures that were supposed to be on star trek V until they ran outta money for sfx. then there was "galaxy quest" with those rock creatures kinda like what was supposed to be on star trek V.



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18 Apr 2016, 5:15 pm

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I believe we need to stop squabbling between falsely dichotomized partisan divisions


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18 Apr 2016, 5:21 pm

sure, we're all trapped in the interrogation room between the good cop and the bad cop. it is still a choice, the good cop=the lesser of two evils. as long as we're stuck with evils, might as well choose the lesser of them whenever possible. we have met the enemy, and he is us.



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18 Apr 2016, 5:30 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
why can't there be a NASA party? :scratch:


Maybe there's a conspiracy of alien planets preventing this, so we humans can't spread our diseased behavior to the stars.
I have long thought there must be some kind of quarantine going on, keeping us down on planet, I mean why else have we not been back to the moon?


I recall a scifi-horror movie - can't recall it's name - about the real reason why we never returned to the moon is because it's really not uninhabited, but has parasitic creatures disguised as rocks living on the moon's dark side.
lessee..... :chin: there were the rock creatures that were supposed to be on star trek V until they ran outta money for sfx. then there was "galaxy quest" with those rock creatures kinda like what was supposed to be on star trek V.


This was about a secret Apollo mission to the moon in the late sixties or early seventies.


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18 Apr 2016, 5:32 pm

auntblabby wrote:
sure, we're all trapped in the interrogation room between the good cop and the bad cop. it is still a choice, the good cop=the lesser of two evils. as long as we're stuck with evils, might as well choose the lesser of them whenever possible.


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18 Apr 2016, 5:50 pm

I believe that the way a video is shot and edited communicates something important about how its creators are going about trying to convince. In a documentary or lecture, techniques such as shaky cam and musical accompaniment are often used to persuade an audience to a particular view by manipulating their nervous systems. I make a conscious effort to avoid this type of persuasion by seeking out media that uses bare bones production methods that I don't feel are hindering my ability to reflect critically, without artifically imposed emotion.



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18 Apr 2016, 6:37 pm

IMHO a video presentation sans any kind of sweetening or effects, is akin to plain yogurt- certainly nourishing but not especially pleasant.



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18 Apr 2016, 7:38 pm

If you don't vote, then you're basically allowing other people to do the voting for you. Make a difference, vote god damn it!


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18 Apr 2016, 8:02 pm

auntblabby wrote:
IMHO a video presentation sans any kind of sweetening or effects, is akin to plain yogurt- certainly nourishing but not especially pleasant.


To me, interesting subject matter delivered in an articulate way is the sweetening factor. I find many of the effects used in mainstream documentary and news reporting to be sensorally unpleasant, and in some cases, painful. Films are getting that way, aswell. Most people I ask seem not to notice.

It reminds me of David Foster Wallace's point about the potential of mass entertainment to become so addicting that most people would choose to fixate on that, and neglect other areas of their lives, and the broader economy. So, I wonder if we aren't seeing mass news and entertainment that's being made deliberately bad so the audience switches off and does something else with its time.



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18 Apr 2016, 8:03 pm

that is why I consistently vote, I don't want any more right-wingers screwing things up for me, more than they already abundantly have.



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18 Apr 2016, 8:05 pm

Nebogipfel wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
IMHO a video presentation sans any kind of sweetening or effects, is akin to plain yogurt- certainly nourishing but not especially pleasant.


To me, interesting subject matter delivered in an articulate way is the sweetening factor. I find many of the effects used in mainstream documentary and news reporting to be sensorally unpleasant, and in some cases, painful. Films are getting that way, aswell. Most people I ask seem not to notice.

It reminds me about somehing David Foster Wallace's point about the potential of mass entertainment to become so addicting that most people would choose to fixate on that, and neglect other areas of their lives, and the broader economy. So, I wonder if we aren't seeing mass news and entertainment that's being made with the intent to make the audience switch off and do something else. It wouldn't surprise me.

oh yes, it is something like a sanitized version of the roman circuses of old. the majority is certainly kept distracted so that our crooked pols continue to get away with murder.



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18 Apr 2016, 8:07 pm

I believe that there is nothing at all separating us from the people we look down upon most except for one really really bad day: immigrants, refugees, inmates, the homeless, and other marginalized folks. I agree with Eugene Debbs when he said, "Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind then that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; and while there is a criminal element, I am of it; and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."

So controversial opinion: No One, deserves to be tortured, killed, mutilated, maimed, raped, executed, denied medical care, or subjected to unnecessary pain regardless of the crime that they committed. I am sick and tired of people joking about prison rape or suggesting that a sex offender should get raped or mutilated. Many of these people have done horrific things to other people, many people in prison were unlucky, many people in prison made a bad decision in a moment of weakness but every single one of them is still a human being and even though they may have to go away to incapacitate them and as a deterrent against future crimes the core of the criminal justice system should be built on fair, rational, impartial, and objective due process, a respect for the rights of all human beings, and for reforming people and giving them fresh start as productive members of society.

The moment that we accept prison rape or torture is the day we accept that there are circumstances in which rape or torture is justified. Any one of us could one day go to prison, guilty of a crime or otherwise. You never think it can happen to you until it does. You can be falsely accused as a close friend of mine was.



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19 Apr 2016, 4:56 am

Lightninggrrl wrote:
I believe that there is nothing at all separating us from the people we look down upon most except for one really really bad day: immigrants, refugees, inmates, the homeless, and other marginalized folks.


There's something else: they're tough. Many people wouldn't survive long in their shoes. I certainly wouldn't. It's understandable that people who've had to prove how tough they are to survive have no sympathy or respect for those who haven't.


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