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Earning it means that you produced something in exchange (labor or services).

Existing in a location, as hanyo was suggesting, is not related to production.

Some people are disabled all their lives. It looks like you'd rather have them die if they can't find support other than through government programs.

I find it especially amazing that on a website about autism, which often leaves people disabled their whole lives, we have someone making arguments like this.

Drop dead.

You can ignore my last statement on what you do..as your statement comes in here after I posted it..but there is still no proof of it you provide here..I can provide proof of what I say..as I have it all documented on several blogs...flickr feeds etc...

I am definitely stronger than you..I can curl 210 Lbs..with my arms on a nautilus machine..documented on my website...

I have never met anyone else that could do it and I work out with Marines at a military base so..yeah safe assumption on my part...

And yes I am definitely a retired civil servant..at a high pay grade...I even have my ID photo copied on my blog..

No we live in a mixed free market economy to be more specific..and they all only work with a mix of social welfare...

Where do you think the two trillion dollars in social welfare money paid out to citizens goes.. my friend..if not back in the economy..the folks use it for subsistence obviously and put it back into the economy like any other paycheck that comes in...

All the private businesses rely on this same currency to survive..Take it away ..they fail..simple as that...

You do not pay for the roads you drive on ..you contribute small amounts of money that go to the entire pot of social welfare as everyone else does...and the social welfare programs for the disabled are no less or no more important that the social welfare programs for the roads you drive on...

Use common sense friend ..please..if you can...

I'm sorry you had cancer. My sister went through breast cancer recently and I know it's a horrible ordeal.

Since you have a vested interest in Medicaid, I'm not going to be able to present an argument that will have any merit to you. You're generalizing your experience without regard to alternatives or consequences. I sympathize with this.

I have no problem with your assessment of my position. If people can't get support outside of government programs (forced redistribution of wealth), I don't think their survival is merited. I happily contribute voluntarily to charities that provide support outside of government.


Why? Being on the spectrum doesn't make me feel like I deserve special treatment. Everyone has challenges in life, autistic or not, and we can either cower or we can fight.


What I infer from this statement is that you feel that my position that people should work for survival is inferior to your position that I should be denied survival on your command. Perhaps my position isn't the problem here.

Well get ready friend..as already stated statistically speaking if you are Autistic by the time you reach 50 to 60 years old there is an 80 to 90 percent chance you will be receiving some type of government support just to meet basic subsistence needs...just like anyone else who is autistic.. speaking in this thread...all about their assurances of independence from social welfare...

So statistically speaking from facts as they exist..if ya get your way..the joke is ultimately on you...likely that is...per simple statistics...and yeah.. I am even stronger than anyone at that base...but my health still failed as that's how it goes in the jungle...

You are in the jungle whether you like it or not...

Refuse help in the future and die..that up to anyone ignorant enough who wants to die...without reasonable cause...
and for those who do not want the system to work..the way it is proven to work best with a mix of social welfare and free market economy..throughout the northern countries in Europe..go for it...but it won't work the proof is in the statistics...

See my other reply.


This has nothing to do with my arguments. But I'll entertain your questions:

I'm over 40. I'm a combat veteran and continue to train regularly. I currently own and run my own company.

I started with nothing and I have never taken a handout. I earned my own way.

Well dear neither have I and I am 53 and still stronger than you..and yeah..I'm on disability too...

And I saved several hundred thousand dollars just serving other folks...

Your health can fail tomorrow...and you will be on disability too..if that happens..unless ya wanna die..if you are a really big man..huh....

Where did the two trillion dollars in social welfare money come from in the first place? It was removed from the economy through taxation.


You're making it hard to remain friendly.

I've worked hard to ensure that I will not be a burden on the public when I am no longer able to produce. Barring catastrophic circumstances, I will never have a need that requires charity or social welfare.

So where do you draw the line? If someone worked for 30 years and then became disabled, have they earned it? How about 20 years? 5?

I see. In your opinion, hanyo should be dying of cancer right now or already dead.

Good for you. Here. Have a cookie.

For some people, it doesn't work out like that.

Why does a line need to be drawn? If you earn something, you have it. At no point should you "earn" forcing other people to pay your way.

The same could easily be said of you and many of your arguments.

What hanyo should or shouldn't be doing is unrelated to any opinion I might have.