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26 Nov 2020, 10:04 pm

The Powell filing has dropped.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-con ... 5.2020.pdf

Good luck to anyone who has to read all that. I certainly won't. There is a preliminary analysis from a lawyer here, an extract is copied below.

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I have been a practicing attorney for 25+ years. The last 15 years I have spent mainly federal court representing persons accused of crimes, so I am quite familiar with federal court, federal procedure and other matters. Here is my take on Ms. Powell’s complaint. I aim to be dispassionate, not because I do not care but because we should be honest. I am not going to smooth over issues just because I hope Ms. Powell wins.

My point is to give background and overview and to advise on what to watch in the future. I have tried to make this post generally neutral and informative. I could not locate exhibits, which are crucial, but they are cited many times in the complaint. So, here are my few observations as an attorney with decades' in federal court:

1. In early October, 2020, a federal district judge in this same district (Northern District of Georgia) ruled after several years of litigation that the Dominion software used to monitor this election has substantial issues and it will affect an election. The Plaintiffs were Democrats who filed suit in response to the 2016 election. They sought an order forcing Georgia to use different software. They conducted discovery and hearings over years, including 3 days of expert testimony about how these very voting machines work. The court ultimately denied the request because it was simply too late to change the voting machines since the election at that time was roughly a month away. New cases are supposed to be assigned to judges randomly but I would not be surprised if this case were given to that particular judge since she spent so much time reviewing the litigation and conducting evidentiary hearings. Her findings of fact could be incorporated into this hearing under the legal theory of res judicata.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:07 pm

They probably shouldn't have filed that in a Georgia DISTRCOICT court then. :lol:

I'm going out on a limb & guessing you shouldn't misspell the names of jurisdictions in court, certainly not if you don't want your case summarily thrown out. It's just disrespectful to the people who live there no matter how they voted & the court exists to represent them.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:17 pm

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They probably shouldn't have filed that in a Georgia DISTRCOICT court then. :lol:

I'm going out on a limb & guessing you shouldn't misspell the names of jurisdictions in court.


It's a time sensitive case and a very comprehensive document, judges understand that. Even if that is the draft submitted, which is not certain, the spelling mistakes aren't going to turn the tide.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:18 pm

...weak...

Time sensitive documents in the real world need to be comprehensible.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:21 pm

There is a second case lodged in Michigan:
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Michigan-Complaint.pdf



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26 Nov 2020, 10:21 pm

422 spell check errors. Those poor attorneys!

https://www.online-spellcheck.com/result/1b02419daa2cd7132e3d5e65627ea994c1612f5c


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26 Nov 2020, 10:22 pm

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...weak...

Time sensitive documents in the real world need to be comprehensible.


Speling mistaeks rarly affectt comprhensiblity.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:23 pm

It's perfectly comprehensible. Looks like "DISTRICCT" and "DISTRCOICT" are due to some kind of glitch. The rest of it looks alright.



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26 Nov 2020, 10:24 pm

Sidney Powell appears on both documents & was already fired for bogus conspiracy theory claims of "biblical" lawsuits.

I don't really find religious dedication to a bible thumping nihilist admissible in American courtrooms, but by all means carry on fantasizing.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:33 pm

Independent (UK newspaper) article



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26 Nov 2020, 10:34 pm

Mikah wrote:
cberg wrote:
...weak...

Time sensitive documents in the real world need to be comprehensible.


Speling mistaeks rarly affectt comprhensiblity.


They are also quite useful for weeding out those who wish to deflect from the information contained within the document, too: The more worried someone is about the information contained in the document, the greater their focus on insigificant typos (or who the author is) are likely to be.



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26 Nov 2020, 10:36 pm

Nevertheless when you're bordering on 500, you start to lose credibility.

I think the Michigan complaint crashed the spell check server I put it through. From what I've seen today, this lawyer is more concerned with edgy #hashtags much like the president, you know, instead of their jobs.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:39 pm

Mikah wrote:
cberg wrote:
...weak...

Time sensitive documents in the real world need to be comprehensible.


Speling mistaeks rarly affectt comprhensiblity.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:41 pm

The pivotal bit here, to my eyes, is: "The lawsuit claims to demonstrate problems with the state’s electoral machinery so serious that “at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded”."

There have already been several cases where Judges have refused to disregard large numbers of apparently valid votes just because a very small number were suspect in one way or another. Basically, when that occurs you deal with the problematic ones, you don't wipe out all the legitimate votes "just because".

It will be interesting to see how much real evidence (rather than paranoid supposition) is presented. If anything, the wording of some of this sounds to me like someone having a manic episode or an epic meltdown. I'm not expecting much in the way of cold, hard facts TBH.



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26 Nov 2020, 10:45 pm

This is a last ditch to save an extremely high-paying, totally unsubstantiated job; that of defending the indefensible. It's a ruse, not a complaint. This is a delay tactic until Trump is called to account.


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26 Nov 2020, 10:56 pm

Redd_Kross wrote:
The pivotal bit here, to my eyes, is: "The lawsuit claims to demonstrate problems with the state’s electoral machinery so serious that “at a minimum, 96,600 votes must be disregarded”."

There have already been several cases where Judges have refused to disregard large numbers of apparently valid votes just because a very small number were suspect in one way or another. Basically, when that occurs you deal with the problematic ones, you don't wipe out all the legitimate votes "just because".

It will be interesting to see how much real evidence (rather than paranoid supposition) is presented. If anything, the wording of some of this sounds to me like someone having a manic episode or an epic meltdown. I'm not expecting much in the way of cold, hard facts TBH.


There was the earlier, and more likely to be accepted section:
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Further, there exists clear evidence of 20,311 absentee or early voters in Georgia that voted while registered as having moved out of state. Specifically, these persons were showing on the National Change of Address Database (NCOA) as having moved, or as having filed subsequent voter registration in another state also as evidence that they moved and even potentially voted in another state. The 20,311 votes by persons documented as having moved exceeds the margin by which Donald Trump lost the election by 7,641 votes.


One other detail is that the case may not be solely aimed at having the result changed by the court, and more related to having these found by the court to have occurred, both as a means of "demonstrating" that the election was potentially won through fraud, as well as to provide the state legislature an option to select electors based on the "likely" (as they may wish to see it ) true result rather than on the result achieved with the fraudulent votes included.