General Strike on October 15th

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13 Nov 2021, 5:53 pm

The union strikes are a great thing because they help to promote class consciousness and advance the zeitgeist to socialist policies. America, as it is currently today, basically refuses to help autistic and neurodynamic people like us find longterm employment, and so on, as well as the ability to reproduce and form our own families, due to the profit-related nature of the system. (ie, if you can't work fast enough or if you can't learn of something fast enough, you're fired withing a couple of months or so), and this is compounded with and made worse with the obvious shrinkage of the welfare state. The longterm survival of autistic/aspergers people IMO is to promote things like class consciousness, union strikes, and socialist ideas because a lot of autistic people aren't compatible on a genuine mental level with the current for-profit system of economics. I've personally always wanted to be more useful regarding wider society, but my condition prevents me from holding down a job longer than 6 months or so, and it's a really awful thing.

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13 Nov 2021, 6:02 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

The only thing they’ll get is FIRED and JAILED, as unions are now worse than useless.

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13 Nov 2021, 6:13 pm

helloyes96555 wrote:

The union strikes are a great thing because they help to promote class consciousness and advance the zeitgeist to socialist policies. America, as it is currently today, basically refuses to help autistic and neurodynamic people like us find longterm employment, and so on, as well as the ability to reproduce and form our own families, due to the profit-related nature of the system. (ie, if you can't work fast enough or if you can't learn of something fast enough, you're fired withing a couple of months or so), and this is compounded with and made worse with the obvious shrinkage of the welfare state. The longterm survival of autistic/aspergers people IMO is to promote things like class consciousness, union strikes, and socialist ideas because a lot of autistic people aren't compatible on a mental level with the current for-profit system of economics. I've personally always wanted to be more useful regarding wider society, but my condition prevents me from holding down a job longer than 6 months or so, and it's a really awful thing.

The disabled are next to impossible to fire in the US even if they can't do the job for which they were hired. Hence "challenged" grocery baggers who put furniture polish in the same bag as fresh meat.

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13 Nov 2021, 8:16 pm

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helloyes96555 wrote:

The union strikes are a great thing because they help to promote class consciousness and advance the zeitgeist to socialist policies. America, as it is currently today, basically refuses to help autistic and neurodynamic people like us find longterm employment, and so on, as well as the ability to reproduce and form our own families, due to the profit-related nature of the system. (ie, if you can't work fast enough or if you can't learn of something fast enough, you're fired withing a couple of months or so), and this is compounded with and made worse with the obvious shrinkage of the welfare state. The longterm survival of autistic/aspergers people IMO is to promote things like class consciousness, union strikes, and socialist ideas because a lot of autistic people aren't compatible on a mental level with the current for-profit system of economics. I've personally always wanted to be more useful regarding wider society, but my condition prevents me from holding down a job longer than 6 months or so, and it's a really awful thing.

So if that's the case, then why do so many people autistic people struggle to find and keep employment?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferpa ... -spectrum/

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Unemployment among those with autism is approximately 85%. This statistic means that roughly two-thirds of people with autism are not working. In general, those with autism had lower employment rates and higher social isolation rates than people with other disabilities.

I'm one of the "better off" ones that has the ability to suppress some of my worse traits and quirks IRL, and even for someone similar to me it's difficult to keep serious employment.

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14 Nov 2021, 2:25 am

i managed to make it to a time where i could just disappear from the rat race, it almost killed me.

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14 Nov 2021, 11:57 am

the rats are scurrying from the sinking ship........

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16 Nov 2021, 6:35 am

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https://octoberstrike.com/

There's discussion and planning of a general strike in the US seeking to pursue a 25% corporate tax rate (No loopholes), Free Healthcare for all, 12 weeks paid paternity and maternity leave, $20 minimum wage, 4 day work week and bans on single use and micro plastics, and limited emissions.

Do you believe there will be any significant participation? If so, how do you think it will be responded to?

Just reread this. Which idiot wants to ban plastic beverage bottles and shopping bags?

What idiot thinks microplastics aren't a serious issue? :chin:

Also if China isn't part of the ban, and they wouldn't be, then it would be useless.

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16 Nov 2021, 9:12 am

So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

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16 Nov 2021, 11:22 am

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So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

I'm one hundred percent against socialism because I got a job and earned everything I have myself. I resent any attempt to steal my income and give it to those who haven't earned it. Fact is equality doesn't exist and we shouldn't attempt to force it on society. I've talked with people who lived in socialist era Eastern Europe, and they say there was no reward for individual achievement, nothing to make people strive for better.

Now if we repealed minimum wage laws and allowed real market values of work and goods determine wages and prices everyone would benefit.

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16 Nov 2021, 11:37 am

Hmm. Interesting. There doesn't seem to be a WrongPlanet r/antiwork overlap.

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16 Nov 2021, 11:40 am

are we talking communist versus Socialist ? beyond that axeman seems to have a very salient point

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16 Nov 2021, 11:41 am

Axeman wrote:

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So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

I'm one hundred percent against socialism because I got a job and earned everything I have myself. I resent any attempt to steal my income and give it to those who haven't earned it. Fact is equality doesn't exist and we shouldn't attempt to force it on society. I've talked with people who lived in socialist era Eastern Europe, and they say there was no reward for individual achievement, nothing to make people strive for better. Now if we repealed minimum wage laws and allowed real market values of work and goods determine wages and prices everyone would benefit.

Now yer talkin' sense! I know snarkasm when I see it.

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16 Nov 2021, 12:00 pm

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So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

You sound like you think social change happens all at once instead of being a slow process that builds upon successes and learns from failures.

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16 Nov 2021, 12:01 pm

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So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

You sound like you think social change happens all at once instead of being a slow process that builds upon successes and learns from failures.

Easy then you've got no success and haven't learned a thing from a century of failure.

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16 Nov 2021, 12:02 pm

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Also if China isn't part of the ban, and they wouldn't be, then it would be useless.

Why wouldn't they be? :roll:

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So you've never benefited from publicly owned infrastructure or social spending? This sounds like you've never thought much about how society has contributed to your life except through a misguided and childish ideological lens.

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16 Nov 2021, 12:04 pm

Axeman wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

Fnord wrote:

So, it has been over a month since The Strike That Never Was. Did the results benefit the global population?

You sound like you think social change happens all at once instead of being a slow process that builds upon successes and learns from failures.

Easy then you've got no success and haven't learned a thing from a century of failure.

Sounds like you're deeply unaware of the history of the labour movement.

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