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07 Jul 2012, 6:01 pm

the first is an opinion piece as far as i can tell and an article not a study, the second looks that way as well, published on a news site, the third seems like a study but i cant read dutch well enoughto read it.
from what i could gather it was a case study into a limited number of individuals

no english studies?
so the scope of their peer review is also limited?


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07 Jul 2012, 7:34 pm

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What the f**k? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
How the hell did you come up with the notion that I'm some insane truther?
I said it wasn't all Muslims. But I never said Muslim terrorists didn't do it.

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But neither was it all Muslims, either.


U left it open for that.


No, I shall repeat - - neither was it all Muslims, either. That means not every Muslim had taken part in the attack, not that there were no Muslims involved.

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It can be read to mean that there were others than Muslims involved in 9/11 or that not all Muslims are terrorists.

While I agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, most are not, they sure to contribute a hell of a lot of their own to that particular trade and their religion seems to condone it.
How far do you want to see the US Muslimised before there are enough of them in-country that they don't feel the need to behave any longer?
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07 Jul 2012, 7:42 pm

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So you want another Christian holocaust happening in Russia Stalin had Chritians killed off for his political motives along with many many Jews ect. Wanting Russia to be Communist again is insane.


Communist again? Russia has never been communist, it has simply had a series of dictatorships with different excuses.


Communism is as communism does. How many communist countries of any significance got started and sustained peacefully as opposed to those that did so through terror, re-education camps, and mass murder?


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07 Jul 2012, 8:08 pm

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
What the f**k? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
How the hell did you come up with the notion that I'm some insane truther?
I said it wasn't all Muslims. But I never said Muslim terrorists didn't do it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Kraichgauer wrote:
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But neither was it all Muslims, either.


U left it open for that.


No, I shall repeat - - neither was it all Muslims, either. That means not every Muslim had taken part in the attack, not that there were no Muslims involved.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It can be read to mean that there were others than Muslims involved in 9/11 or that not all Muslims are terrorists.

While I agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, most are not, they sure to contribute a hell of a lot of their own to that particular trade and their religion seems to condone it.
How far do you want to see the US Muslimised before there are enough of them in-country that they don't feel the need to behave any longer?
:?


I think you know I meant that not every Muslim was involved in 9/11.
And I seriously doubt America is ever going to become Islamasized. We are no where close to that happening, as immigrants of all sorts in the end are Americanized. My dentist is a Syrian immigrant, and he speaks perfect English, and has two Caucasian ladies working for him as dental technicians (hardly submissive roles). He's the last to fit the mold of a terrorist. If you knew him, I think you'd probably refer to him as "one of the good ones." :P I really doubt that Muslim Americans like my dentist are just lying in wait till they have sufficient numbers to strike. And this irrational fear is a lousy reason to practice ethnic and religious prejudice against people who just want to reinvent themselves as Americans.

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07 Jul 2012, 8:26 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
What the f**k? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
How the hell did you come up with the notion that I'm some insane truther?
I said it wasn't all Muslims. But I never said Muslim terrorists didn't do it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Kraichgauer wrote:
Quote:
But neither was it all Muslims, either.


U left it open for that.


No, I shall repeat - - neither was it all Muslims, either. That means not every Muslim had taken part in the attack, not that there were no Muslims involved.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It can be read to mean that there were others than Muslims involved in 9/11 or that not all Muslims are terrorists.

While I agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, most are not, they sure to contribute a hell of a lot of their own to that particular trade and their religion seems to condone it.
How far do you want to see the US Muslimised before there are enough of them in-country that they don't feel the need to behave any longer?
:?


I think you know I meant that not every Muslim was involved in 9/11.
And I seriously doubt America is ever going to become Islamasized. We are no where close to that happening, as immigrants of all sorts in the end are Americanized. My dentist is a Syrian immigrant, and he speaks perfect English, and has two Caucasian ladies working for him as dental technicians (hardly submissive roles). He's the last to fit the mold of a terrorist. If you knew him, I think you'd probably refer to him as "one of the good ones." :P I really doubt that Muslim Americans like my dentist are just lying in wait till they have sufficient numbers to strike. And this irrational fear is a lousy reason to practice ethnic and religious prejudice against people who just want to reinvent themselves as Americans.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I think you know what I meant........
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07 Jul 2012, 8:32 pm

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
What the f**k? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
How the hell did you come up with the notion that I'm some insane truther?
I said it wasn't all Muslims. But I never said Muslim terrorists didn't do it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Kraichgauer wrote:
Quote:
But neither was it all Muslims, either.


U left it open for that.


No, I shall repeat - - neither was it all Muslims, either. That means not every Muslim had taken part in the attack, not that there were no Muslims involved.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It can be read to mean that there were others than Muslims involved in 9/11 or that not all Muslims are terrorists.

While I agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, most are not, they sure to contribute a hell of a lot of their own to that particular trade and their religion seems to condone it.
How far do you want to see the US Muslimised before there are enough of them in-country that they don't feel the need to behave any longer?
:?


I think you know I meant that not every Muslim was involved in 9/11.
And I seriously doubt America is ever going to become Islamasized. We are no where close to that happening, as immigrants of all sorts in the end are Americanized. My dentist is a Syrian immigrant, and he speaks perfect English, and has two Caucasian ladies working for him as dental technicians (hardly submissive roles). He's the last to fit the mold of a terrorist. If you knew him, I think you'd probably refer to him as "one of the good ones." :P I really doubt that Muslim Americans like my dentist are just lying in wait till they have sufficient numbers to strike. And this irrational fear is a lousy reason to practice ethnic and religious prejudice against people who just want to reinvent themselves as Americans.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I think you know what I meant........
:roll:


If that's not what you meant, I'm not getting it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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07 Jul 2012, 9:14 pm

Raptor, do you enjoy turning every discussion you join into an intellectual cesspit?


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07 Jul 2012, 9:56 pm

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Raptor, do you enjoy turning every discussion you join into an intellectual cesspit?


I th*t they were called cesspools.


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07 Jul 2012, 10:33 pm

both are in the dictionary


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08 Jul 2012, 7:58 am

Oodain wrote:
the first is an opinion piece as far as i can tell and an article not a study


Only the last paragraph contains a judgmental attitude. The first, and the second that I left out because it's just a historical summary, discuss research carried out by medical scientists.

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the second looks that way as well, published on a news site


It's an article, yes. There should be a video to accompany it that discusses options for better health care. It starts with a protected care home for Moroccan men with severe mental disorders. There are separate videos in Berber and Arabic.

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the third seems like a study but i cant read dutch well enoughto read it.
from what i could gather it was a case study into a limited number of individuals


No, it's a literature study.

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no english studies?
so the scope of their peer review is also limited?


They're exceedingly rare. I'm not sure why - a lot of other research is carried out in English from the very beginning, but research into these things isn't even translated. Perhaps it's because people in English-speaking countries still generally deny that these problems exist, and don't have a sizeable Berber or Antillean population to measure these problems against. The people who oppose my views on immigration, integration and acknowledgement of group-bound issues most are usually from dominions.



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08 Jul 2012, 8:12 am

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So you want another Christian holocaust happening in Russia Stalin had Chritians killed off for his political motives along with many many Jews ect. Wanting Russia to be Communist again is insane.

History will show you Communism is a epic fail.

This is such a ridiculous argument. Stalin is not all communists, not all communists are Marxists. There is no reason why you couldn't have a communist state which didn't close down the churches and slaughter the religious.

Hitler was a socialist, but nobody is killing the Jews in Europe today. Clement Atlee never suggested we murder all the gypsies and disabled people and homosexuals.


Not really it's just a fact of Communsit Geneocide.

That doesn't make any sense at all.

The best interpretation I can make is that you meant "all genocides are genocides", which is just a tautology.



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08 Jul 2012, 10:03 am

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the first is an opinion piece as far as i can tell and an article not a study


Only the last paragraph contains a judgmental attitude. The first, and the second that I left out because it's just a historical summary, discuss research carried out by medical scientists.

Oodain wrote:
the second looks that way as well, published on a news site


It's an article, yes. There should be a video to accompany it that discusses options for better health care. It starts with a protected care home for Moroccan men with severe mental disorders. There are separate videos in Berber and Arabic.

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the third seems like a study but i cant read dutch well enoughto read it.
from what i could gather it was a case study into a limited number of individuals


No, it's a literature study.

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no english studies?
so the scope of their peer review is also limited?


They're exceedingly rare. I'm not sure why - a lot of other research is carried out in English from the very beginning, but research into these things isn't even translated. Perhaps it's because people in English-speaking countries still generally deny that these problems exist, and don't have a sizeable Berber or Antillean population to measure these problems against. The people who oppose my views on immigration, integration and acknowledgement of group-bound issues most are usually from dominions.


i think you will find that the first article was categorized by the news site as an opinon piece.

but if there is an issue i am pretty sure you could easily find collaborating peer reviewed studies to show it, these issues have been researched in australia as far as i know, havent read the study though.
no matter what one cannot use a limited scope like a single country to weed out these issues, you did see the list i posted earlier, only 25% of a single of those point were ethnicity.


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08 Jul 2012, 12:22 pm

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i think you will find that the first article was categorized by the news site as an opinon piece.


It was, but one that drew immediately from research carried out by medical researchers that showed a giant discrepancy in schizophrenia rates between Dutch people and islamic foreigners.

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but if there is an issue i am pretty sure you could easily find collaborating peer reviewed studies to show it, these issues have been researched in australia as far as i know, havent read the study though.


Can you find it? I'd like to read that.

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no matter what one cannot use a limited scope like a single country to weed out these issues, you did see the list i posted earlier, only 25% of a single of those point were ethnicity.


This is the only country with appropriate demographics to properly research it. We have hundreds of thousands of either ethnic group (Turkish, predominantly from eastern Turkey, and Moroccans, primarily Berber Moroccans), and they consistently show much-higher rates of schizophrenia and mental retardation than any other ethnic group we have, or any other ethnic group that's been looked into. It's an accepted explanation here that much of that is the direct result of inbreeding as a result of cultural and religious norms dictating marriages to take place either within a family or within a very-limited social group, usually "people originating in one small religiously-conservative village in the Atlas Mountains". In case you were wondering, marriage and inbreeding between cousins is legal here, and very common in those two ethnic groups.



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08 Jul 2012, 12:40 pm

The vitriol of conservatives is reinforced daily by talk radio. That's their format. It's extremely hateful.

They hated John Kerry because they didnt like what color shirt he wore while patroling inlets of the MeKong river during Vietnam. Round and round about about who he fired at and how much fire he took. Yet Count Von Romney received four deferments and spent the war in a palatial home in France with stained glass, staff, chandeliers, etc. The governor's son doesnt need to worry about talk radio attacking his war record.



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08 Jul 2012, 1:57 pm

You know, I think liberals don't have it that bad... As a socialist, my political views have no chance of being upheld in the USA.

For one, I believe in a MAXIMUM wage. As well as a high (50%) tax rate to go towards public services (transportation, healthcare, education, etc.)

As much as I'd LOVE to move to a socialist country, I'm unfortunately stuck here.

Though, I really don't understand the appeal of being rich.



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08 Jul 2012, 3:03 pm

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You know, I think liberals don't have it that bad... As a socialist, my political views have no chance of being upheld in the USA.

For one, I believe in a MAXIMUM wage. As well as a high (50%) tax rate to go towards public services (transportation, healthcare, education, etc.)

As much as I'd LOVE to move to a socialist country, I'm unfortunately stuck here.

Though, I really don't understand the appeal of being rich.


Hell, I'm at least one liberal who likes your ideas! 8)

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