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17 Nov 2020, 9:19 pm

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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 Tuesday along party lines on whether the county's Nov. 3 election results should be certified as at least four state and federal lawsuits sought to stop the process.

The decision came after a number of absentee ballot poll books in Detroit were found to be out of balance, a situation that did not stop the same board from certifying the results in the August primary or the county's November 2016 general election results.


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In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.

Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.


Source: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/wayne-county-canvassers-deadlock-certifying-november-3-election-results/6324274002/


Thanks for cherry picking that article to support your agenda. At least you posted the source so we can see your game.


Not sure why you falsely make accusations of "cherry picking" or an "agenda" - It was relevent information relating to the election results (the topic under discussion), which had only recently been published (this being the first article about it that I had seen), and which has the potential to have an impact on the electoral college vote from that state.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:27 pm

Brictoria wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 Tuesday along party lines on whether the county's Nov. 3 election results should be certified as at least four state and federal lawsuits sought to stop the process.

The decision came after a number of absentee ballot poll books in Detroit were found to be out of balance, a situation that did not stop the same board from certifying the results in the August primary or the county's November 2016 general election results.


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In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.

Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.


Source: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/wayne-county-canvassers-deadlock-certifying-november-3-election-results/6324274002/


Thanks for cherry picking that article to support your agenda. At least you posted the source so we can see your game.


Not sure why you falsely make accusations of "cherry picking" or an "agenda" - It was relevent information relating to the election results (the topic under discussion), which had only recently been published (this being the first article about it that I had seen), and which has the potential to have an impact on the electoral college vote from that state.


Because you are making it look like there is an issue, when there are two side in the story. Why didn't you take quotes stating there was no issue with the count? And why would a few votes (and there is no indication those votes were for a particular candidate) would change the count? The fact is there is nothing in the story that would change the outcome.

Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:33 pm

Also from CISA: Election Rumor Control

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This webpage is for people with questions about the security of their vote and preemptively debunks potential areas for disinformation. You can learn more about mis- and disinformation from CISA’s Countering Foreign Influence Task Force. Click an icon below to go directly to that section.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:34 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 Tuesday along party lines on whether the county's Nov. 3 election results should be certified as at least four state and federal lawsuits sought to stop the process.

The decision came after a number of absentee ballot poll books in Detroit were found to be out of balance, a situation that did not stop the same board from certifying the results in the August primary or the county's November 2016 general election results.


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In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.

Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.


Source: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/wayne-county-canvassers-deadlock-certifying-november-3-election-results/6324274002/


Thanks for cherry picking that article to support your agenda. At least you posted the source so we can see your game.


Picking an article that's actually gemane is hardly cherry picking.

And just what agenda does The Detroit News align with?

In my opinion if people can't keep up with a solid argument, they should just bow out rather than deflect with ad hominem statements like seen above and complaining about where someone lives etc.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:41 pm

Trump lawyer contesting election result said 'litigation will not work'

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A lawyer fighting for Donald Trump in the US president’s attempt to overturn defeat by Joe Biden said shortly after election day that “no bombshells” would derail the Democrat’s victory, and “the litigation will not work”.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:41 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


What specifically is his particular agenda?



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17 Nov 2020, 9:43 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
Picking an article that's actually gemane is hardly cherry picking.

And just what agenda does The Detroit News align with?

In my opinion if people can't keep up with a solid argument, they should just bow out rather than deflect with ad hominem statements like seen above and complaining about where someone lives etc.


Picking select quotes from that article to misrepresents the article is called cherry picking. That is my argument. So disprove it.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:44 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
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The Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2 Tuesday along party lines on whether the county's Nov. 3 election results should be certified as at least four state and federal lawsuits sought to stop the process.

The decision came after a number of absentee ballot poll books in Detroit were found to be out of balance, a situation that did not stop the same board from certifying the results in the August primary or the county's November 2016 general election results.


Quote:
In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.

Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.


Source: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/17/wayne-county-canvassers-deadlock-certifying-november-3-election-results/6324274002/


Thanks for cherry picking that article to support your agenda. At least you posted the source so we can see your game.


Not sure why you falsely make accusations of "cherry picking" or an "agenda" - It was relevent information relating to the election results (the topic under discussion), which had only recently been published (this being the first article about it that I had seen), and which has the potential to have an impact on the electoral college vote from that state.


Because you are making it look like there is an issue, when there are two side in the story. Why didn't you take quotes stating there was no issue with the count? And why would a few votes (and there is no indication those votes were for a particular candidate) would change the count? The fact is there is nothing in the story that would change the outcome.

Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


Just because you may not like what is posted (and so it doesn't align with your personal agenda) does not mean that the person posting it has an agenda...

I also heard a rumour that the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has just agreed to certify the results, on the condition that the Secretary of State’s office conducts a comprehensive audit of the unexplained\out of balance precincts across the county.

How many votes are affected (and whether this will actually occur) I don't know - I just pass along the facts as they appear.

As you (and others) are getting so much joy from publishing anything supporting one side (while ignoring\downplaying anything beneficial to the alternative viewpoint), it would be impolite to have tried to beat you to posting those details, so I simply publish the side that you would prefer to remain hidden in order to bring balance to the discussion.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:44 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
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Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


What specifically is his particular agenda?


Don't you know? That is strange...



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17 Nov 2020, 9:50 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
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Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


What specifically is his particular agenda?


Don't you know? That is strange...


That's a deflection. Are you afraid to give a direct answer to a direct question?



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17 Nov 2020, 9:51 pm

Brictoria wrote:
Just because you may not like what is posted (and so it doesn't align with your personal agenda) does not mean that the person posting it has an agenda...

I also heard a rumour that the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has just agreed to certify the results, on the condition that the Secretary of State’s office conducts a comprehensive audit of the unexplained\out of balance precincts across the county.

How many votes are affected (and whether this will actually occur) I don't know - I just pass along the facts as they appear.

As you (and others) are getting so much joy from publishing anything supporting one side (while ignoring\downplaying anything beneficial to the alternative viewpoint), it would be impolite to have tried to beat you to posting those details, so I simply publish the side that you would prefer to remain hidden in order to bring balance to the discussion.


I do not get any joy from this. Nor are you passing on the facts, as you claim. You are selectively picking information to spread misinformation about the election (why not quote the parts of the article that suggest there is nothing wrong about the count?). I certainly have not seen you post anything to suggest you are interested in a balanced discussion.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:52 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


What specifically is his particular agenda?


Don't you know? That is strange...


That's a deflection. Are you afraid to give a direct answer to a direct question?


Talk about deflection. Prove our friend is not cherry picking.



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17 Nov 2020, 9:57 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Jiheisho wrote:
Yes, you have consistently made post supporting a particular agenda. You are not a neutral broker.


What specifically is his particular agenda?


Don't you know? That is strange...


That's a deflection. Are you afraid to give a direct answer to a direct question?


Talk about deflection. Prove our friend is not cherry picking.


It sounded to me like you were saying the entire article was cherry picked, rather than parts of it, so that's what I commented on.

Now that that's settled, what specifically is his particular agenda?



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17 Nov 2020, 9:59 pm

Jiheisho wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Picking an article that's actually gemane is hardly cherry picking.

And just what agenda does The Detroit News align with?

In my opinion if people can't keep up with a solid argument, they should just bow out rather than deflect with ad hominem statements like seen above and complaining about where someone lives etc.


Picking select quotes from that article to misrepresents the article is called cherry picking. That is my argument. So disprove it.


Well, I originally posted the entire article, but a moderator with similar political leaning to yourself requested I only use small excerpts instead (hence the quotes)...The excerpts selected were designed to illustrate the reason behind the actions which had been reported, and were centered on the facts available.

I always publish sources so that if I miss something, people can correct what was posted\point out what was missed - I prefer that people have the ability to confirm\refute what I have posted based on factual data, as it allows the possibility of a constructive discussion, rather than making claims\statements with no supporting evidence\reference material, where other participants are unable to determine for themselves whether what is presented is true or accurate.



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18 Nov 2020, 1:53 am

Brictoria wrote:
I also heard a rumour that the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has just agreed to certify the results, on the condition that the Secretary of State’s office conducts a comprehensive audit of the unexplained\out of balance precincts across the county.
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Wait? I don't get it. You continually critique posters who post the news accusing them of projecting information to suit their bias (in your view bias against Trump or the right wing) but you wantonly are selective what you ignore, cherry pick selected information to canvass your arguments and then you happily drag rumour/innuendo and other assorted obfuscation/fluff to bolster your position.

Since when is a comprehensive audit of voting fraud justified when the outgoing POTUS chucks a hissy fit and even his own family have told him to bottle up his unsubstantiated childish rants and take it like a man.

Unbelievable the lengths you go to defend a madman??