Is there any proof God exists?

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what does this "God" word even mean? what is truth? imo, humanity can't prove what itself even is much less what a "god" would be, we don't know what our own sentience is, we don't know what phenomenon are sentience exists in is, humanity will die with these questioned unanswered.

wow, 29 pages already!? TLTR.

1. There is no empirical evidence of God, an intelligent agent believed to be the creator of all has not been observed in the physical universe. That leads to another question, if an entity with similar descriptions of God is found, how can we be certain that it is not a highly evolved being rather than the creator of all? The standards to prove a creator should be extremely high.

2. Ontological arguments are called "proofs" but they are question-beggin.


The problem of evil


Pretty much, cognitive dissonance.



well, can your prove Santa Claus? can you disprove Santa Claus, or Zeus or Apollo?

That's free-will for you.

If humans followed Gods laws, nobody would be killing each other, nobody would die of hunger, nobody would settle in a region prone to earthquakes.

How silly…"You can't disprove it, therefore it doesn't exist"? The whole "you can't disprove something that doesn't exist" has long been busted. If I have an inverted bowl and claim that there are no oranges under it, all you have to do is pick up the bowl to demonstrate that my non-existent oranges really aren't there.

This goes along with that whole "one cannot be called upon to prove a negative." Please…that's just intellectual laziness.

'Up,Up, and Away' was indeed Fifth Dimension. It's an understandable confusion given that he did so much mid-60's light pop. And he covered pop songs too so I'm a little surprised he didn't cover that (or maybe he did and google wasn't aware).

I love them both.

One of my favourite Mendez tunes was Mas Que Nada, a little nothing song with a great sound and great to dance a Samba to. (Gawd... am I showing my age?)

A tweet made recently by the well-known account run by "God", @TheTweetOfGod:
"Did you see Me taking a selfie just now? #Sachin #IndvsSA
(If anyone could authenticate the genuineness of this tweet - you're welcome!)

This tweet refers to the "selfie" - a photograph of a person taken mainly on their mobile front-facing camera - taken by Sachin Tendulkar (official Twitter account: @sachinrt) during the recent Cricket World Cup game between India and South Africa.

Therefore, yes, if you believe the views of a single Twitter account claiming to be God (and a few of not only His but his devotees), then Sachin Tendulkar IS God! (No doubt that many other people will think that God is not living on Earth right now, but this is just my two cents. It might as well be that God might have a good sense of humour and pretended to be Tendulkar (the so-called "Cricket God") for a tweet in order for us to think that He used to play cricket for India - you never know...)

Innocent people grow up in a country where a dictator takes over and commits racial genocide, but those people had free will.

A tsunami hits the Ache province in Indonesia, killing hundreds of thousands, but it was their free will choice to live a couple of thousand miles away from the quake that caused the tsunami.

Ebola strikes in a country where people are poor, uneducated and not sure what to do. There is no cure and almost everyone it strikes dies - adults and children. They are under quarantine, and can't go anywhere, but chalk that up to free will too.

I'm sure that the hundreds or thousands of children who have died (and are on their way to hell) in the time it took me to write this, are comforted in knowing their free will was never impinged upon by God, or any other deity who people might call loving.

A wrong choice can do so much damage.

Eating monkeys is what causes ebola. One person ate a monkey, he contracted ebola and then he infected the entire community.

Everyone has been given free-will. It is a beautiful thing. But it can be used to do evil. God did not create evil, he merely created a being that can do evil.

What I would like to know is, in the book it supposedly says:

And people quote:

God and lucifer had an argument over something, I'm not sure what it was about, maybe the football results.

But they were friends one time.

And then god banishes lucifer from heaven over an argument, instead of trying to be understanding.

Then in turn there is a divide, god makes his castle and the devil makes his. Now there both fighting over something.

There both as bad as each other in my opinion.

And the only way to settle this is to try and do the right thing and shake hands and to try and settle there differences.

I must have missed the bit in the bible where the eating of monkeys is proscribed.

To be honest I find your understanding of free will and the reverberating community repercussions to be as asinine and offensive as those of Westboro Baptist church. I find it hilarious that the privileged religious deem any ill fortune that befalls a person in poverty to be their own fault. I hope for your sake that we don't have an end of times judgement day as I think some of you right wing bigots may well be in for a shock.

What is wrong, or even sinful, with eating monkey?
It's certainly not my meal of choice, but I don't know of any prohibition.
Unless it has something to do with eating our ancestors... lol.
It's about as free-willish as eating beef and contracting mad-cow.
Or eating chicken and contracting that horrible bird virus.
Or eating fish and dying of lead poisoning.
Ohhhhh... I get it. We should be vegetarian. That's the free-will choice God wants.

It's pretty straight forward. Over 200,000 people in Ache Indonesia, half of them children, dead through no fault but nature. And according to Christianity, they're on their way to eternal pain and suffering because they were not born in a Christian country. Those deaths were not men doing evil. But that pronouncement is evil. God is love? No, God is a fiction people use to judge others with. Christians often talk about the immorality of atheism. What about the immorality of judging innocent people as being worthy of suffering for eternity? And then hiding behind God as the proxy for such judgement?

Nobody dies.

Death is just a transition to another world.

And children don't go to hell.

Hell will be filled with people who wanted to be there.

If God says to you : "Don't kill otherwise you will go to hell" .

Killing someone then becomes another way of telling God : "I want to go to hell".

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How lovely and prosaic.

According to Christianity, death for the unbeliever is a transition to eternal torment.