Our New President - President Donald Trump

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I agree

Especially since Muslims are the biggest victims of terrorists anyway.

I can always move to Canada if Trump messes it up, dual citizen.

Not quite. We're both Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod, which is somewhat conservative. He and I agree to disagree, as he was born and raised LC-MS, and I was raised Southern Baptist, with a twist of Amish, Mennonite, and Dunkard (Church of the Brethern) influences.

If you want to talk about off the edge liberal Lutheranism, it's the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which, in my humble opinion, is no longer Evangelical nor Lutheran. I left that group 2 years ago, after having it out with the pastor, when she fired the music director that was in that congregation at the time. That incident was the straw that broke the camel's back, as I was a member and employee (as a tenor soloist) that saw too many changes that were anti thick to Scripture.

The only major Lutheran group that's even more conservative than LC-MS is the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod(WELS) and the smaller Norwegian cousin in the US, the Evangelical Lutheran Synod. That group are the rabid dog John Birchers of Lutherans (Just ask Jacoby, as he was brought up in WELS). My only experience with WELS was owner 30 years ago, and it wasn't too pleasant. I had just moved from PA to Metro Chicago. I rushed to O'Hare to drop my Dad off for his flight back to Baltimore. I decided to take a look at some of the Lutheran congregations in the area. The only service I was able to make was a WELS congregation. The pastor recognized me as a newcomer, and asked that I introduce myself. I introuced myself and told them I came out of the LCA (one of the predecessor churches of the ELCA). I was persona non grata after that in that congregation.

So yes, Virginia, it is possible to be a political liberal or even a moderate in a mostly conservative denomination. Some congregations are fine with that: others will run you out of town on a rail.

Thank you; I was hoping you'd respond to her query.

On Fox News:

Iraqi's being held at JFK Airport or sent back home after President Trump signed the Executive Order for a holdover.
Protests being held.

Interesting. Mexico spoke with Trump after all over the phone. I knew they would come to their senses.

They aren't, because they never lost their senses. Last I heard, the American people will flip the bill for that damn wall, which means Trump's backing down when push comes to shove. And Mexico is pushing talk about that wall back up his a$$, from whence it came.

Actually, I would pay extra taxes to build the wall - just so it's done.

Well I'm not, because it'll go down in history as Trump's Boondoggle. But it won't be Trump's Boondoggle, it'll be ours, because we'll be paying out the keaster for it, not him.

Who says you won't? My tax dollars are going for abortions now - not liking that too much and those pesky Sanctuary cities too.

This is what I'm talking about - Secession!
That means they couldn't vote in the next election.
Woo Hoo!


California Could Cut Off Feds In Response To Trump Threats. http://tiny.iavian.net/eytl


California campaign to secede gains momentum. http://tiny.iavian.net/eymx

We can expect a 20% tax on beer and candy. If I'm going to pay extra for beer, at least I'd prefer to pay for something useful, like health care for all, not a barrier that sounds like it was dreamed up by someone drinking too much beer.

I gotta say Trump isn't boring.

US-bound Muslim travellers are stopped from boarding flights as Trump's ban sweeps into force. http://tiny.iavian.net/eyrk

Protesters Gather At JFK In Support Of Detained Refugees. http://tiny.iavian.net/eyud

Green card holders included in Trump ban: Homeland Security. http://tiny.iavian.net/eyr5

Trump's executive orders dramatically expand power of immigration officers. http://tiny.iavian.net/eyr3

Trump’s Visa Ban to Reportedly Keep Oscar-Nominated Director Asghar Farhadi From Attending 2017 Awards. http://tiny.iavian.net/eyru

Iran says to ban U.S. visitors in retaliation to Trump move. http://tiny.iavian.net/eysl

Demos had 8 yrs to start an idea like yours. They didn't want to. And, I don't drink anymore or eat much candy. I hear smoking is going up too.

Back in the Clinton days, when the idea of health care for all had been floated by Democrats, along with the idea of taxing cigarettes to pay for it, the right jumped all over idea, which was a major reason why such health care reform ended up failing. But yes, I wish the Dems wouldn't have been so gunshy this time around to tax alcohol, tobacco, and sugary treats to pay for health care.

Well at least that's not as heavy duty as bombing Iraq.



I think that will hurt them more than us.