who supports marijuana rights?

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I feel vulnerable, have a courage defecit, and am excessively afraid of other people's power to ruin my life. Those prevent me from being more "open/out there" about my beliefs/opinions/practices. I do understand the "critical mass" concept, though it's lonely being a pioneer before the mainstream shifts/catches up.

Another thing-if access to criminalized drugs were legal, hope it would be easier to know what one is taking & what f/x (pros & cons) to prepare for. Contrast that w/now, people end up w/all sorts of unknown materials, since underground is only source-no way to separate legit from scam. Like prohibition, w/folks being poisoned by harsh chemicals & hard alcohol, quite the opposite of the "harm reduction" approach.
Plus, it's been too easy to make drugs a scapegoat-people expect it, fits w/their preconceptions. It's self-perpetuating, the more people surrender responsibility for their actions to a substance, the less clear it is which f/x really are inherent properties & which are just our assumptions. Folks excuse themselves by thinking & saying "that wasn't me, it was the drug that made that bad choice". If people could get honest, balanced info. about each drug & be certain of which drug he/she is taking (not a given, currently), that's a start.

We do need to bear down a little harder, because "critical mass" doesn't do you much good if you don't have some sort of free-floating energy to warm it up, and some kind of initiator to start the chain reactions. A good part of the propaganda is aimed at keeping temperatures low, so nothing takes fire. There is indeed an effort to disable "troublemakers" who might shake up the system.

The illegality of drugs has skewed a lot of people's perceptions of some hard realities, so we are no longer dealing with realities provided by science. This is a huge problem for all of us. Some people don't seem to have a problem with it. I do.

I see that the stoners have hi-jacked this thread.

Well very good.

I loved to smoke when i was a younger man, and before i had children. I still would, but i am not the type to be motivated afterwards. I have my children and wife to support.
which lends credibility to my philosophy on the subject.

People need, whatever they need, to get them through their day.
-Some people, its god
-others, its work
-the pursuit of money
-family
-alcohol
-some people enjoy smoking marijuana.

And whatever gets people through their day, and it does not harm other people, then who are the rest of us to judge?

For others it is the pursuit of knowledge

I've never smoked pot and I don't see the value of legalizing pot, but if what I"ve heard is correct, it's less harrmful to us that cigarettes and alcochol, and they are legal. But then again, I have no use for either.

I think it should be legal for adults (whatever age the law considers you an adult in your jurisdiction). However, you should not be under the influence on the job (if your employer forbids it), while you drive (if you're impaired, that is, otherwise you should never be pulled over anyway), and while any other people are in your care (don't be high if you have kids you may need to tend to, or any other person that may be dependent upon you).

As long as you are responsible with your use by following those guidelines, it's alright with me. I'm not interested in trying it myself, but I don't agree that the government needs to be telling responsible adults what they should be doing on their own time with their own money. People who can be responsible with it should have the opportunity to use it and only the abusers should be dealt with by legal authorities.

Well, hemp is the only plant that can produce large quantities of easily usable liquid fuel at a substantial net gain over the energy we use to collect and process it. The "refinery" can consist of a wooden press and some filtering materials like cheesecloth or that stuff they make coffee filters with. We could have people turning out as many barrels a day from a very small operation as any oil well does in southern Kansas.

This makes the plant of tremendous value to civilization.

And, of course, it makes the plant a threat to the existing power brokers.

Exactly. Let's stop kidding ourselves. "Authority" uses all kinds of threats, including torture, mayhem and death threats to individuals and their families. These threats exist however they are prettied up. A lot of shootings of human beings are done because they attempt to defend their lives from a home invasion by armed stormtroopers. Some minds, like mine, just can't see it as right to send a party of masked thugs into someone's apartment because they might have a quarter ounce somewhere.

They lie to us about the effects of marijuana and other drugs. When we don't accept the lies they use violence against us, or ruin our reputations, or take away our children and our homes. One way to ruin your reputation is to declare that you are mentally ill because you don't believe their nonsense. Then they act smug about it. A rational brain can just feel itself seize up when it sees this "smug" act. It's why they do it. The very fact that they use it tells you that they know that they did something wrong to you and they think you can't do anything about it. They have owned you. They can do another owning when they can persuade you to believe that they did this for purposes of protection of morality and public safety. Then they try to deceive you about the very fact that you are owned, to keep you from rebelling. How can anyone rebel against concerns for morality and public safety without being insane?

Thats where we come in.
Dont speek about this to anyone and only use low tech methods of communication.

Hey, an Aspie Spy Network (ASN)
or would you prefer (AIA) Aspie Intellegence Association?

Where is Assassin when you need him?

I think people should be allowed to grow their own for their personal needs but not allowed to sell it but that's because I live in Hawaii. It's been legalized here of medicinal purposes. I have a friend who recently got a medical certificate from a doctor. This certicate allows him to grow up to 7 plants legally.

And these restrictions still conveniently make it illegal for us to grow enough to make useful amounts of fuel from.

Why should people not be able to sell it? Would you put that restriction on all plants? If not all plants, why this plant?

I don't want it to get too commercial. If it were legal to sell, these big corporations would get involved.

If old-school enthusiasts are allowed to breed and grow, why would you care what the corporations are doing?

At least it would stop them developing biological weapons to eradicate the genus completely! (as is happenning in the states right now)

I support marijuana legalization across the board. The same with all other psychoactives. The rule as always is "Caveat emptor."